My Favvvvvvvvvvv A K SB

[fasin8ing]

My favorite.. A K in the SB .. Any problems with how I play this? Scary board... I dont think hes got queens.. Other guy went out on the turn. I have a Ace of spades for the flush .. I really didnt like just calling.. But .. Kinda scary hand.

#Game No : 3792632798
***** Hand History for Game 3792632798 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $6 Buy-in Trny:21250172 Level:2 Blinds(30/60) - Tuesday, March 21, 18:41:12 ET 2006
Table Table 96838 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 9: fasin8ing1 ( $3320 )
Seat 3: jkf1969 ( $1870 )
Seat 1: ryangreen111 ( $1813 )
Seat 5: cberg161 ( $4108 )
Seat 6: BIGDAWG1954 ( $210 )
Seat 4: clunder ( $5240 )
Seat 7: rmarty1 ( $3439 )
Trny:21250172 Level:2
Blinds(30/60)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to fasin8ing1 [ Kh As ]
jkf1969 calls [60].
clunder raises [120].
cberg161 folds.
BIGDAWG1954 folds.
rmarty1 calls [120].
fasin8ing1 raises [225].
ryangreen111 folds.
jkf1969 folds.
clunder calls [135].
rmarty1 calls [135].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Qs, Ks ]
fasin8ing1 bets [250].
clunder calls [250].
rmarty1 calls [250].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
fasin8ing1 checks.
clunder bets [200].
rmarty1 folds.
fasin8ing1 calls [200].
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
fasin8ing1 checks.
clunder bets [710].
fasin8ing1 calls [710].

[taipan168]

With a caller and a raiser in front, raise more on the flop. Make it at least 300-350 to go.

On the flop, I think your 250 bet is too weak - there is 800 in the pot, you hit a king and there's a flush draw out there. I bet 600 here. This might have gotten these guys to fold. Fire a cannon, not a pea shooter! If anybody has two spades they are getting good odds to call your 250 bet.

On the turn, I think you have to fire a second barrel, say half the pot. If you're pushed over you can fold, if called as you say you have a draw to the nut flush. You could also have check-raised here, clunder bet 200 into a 1500 pot, take control of the hand!

Tough spot on the river, looks like a value bet, but I think you have to call. If Clunder is a donk he might have stayed with you with Ax or Kx. Could also be trip Qs or the flush, but from the betting patterns on the flop and turn it's too hard to tell.

[andy-akb]

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UTG (t1870)
UTG+1 (t5240)
MP1 (t4108)
CO (t210)
Button (t3439)
Hero (t3320)
BB (t1813)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K A
UTG calls t60, UTG+1 raises to t120, MP1 folds, CO folds, Button calls t120, Hero raises to t225, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t135, Button calls t135

Flop: (t885) Q Q K (3 players)
Hero bets t250, UTG+1 calls t250, Button calls t250

Turn: (t1635) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t200, Button folds, Hero calls t200

River: (t2035) A (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t710, Hero calls t710

Thats a tiny reraise preflop, wont accomplish much. On the flop you are betting about 1/4 of the pot. On the turn I would raise, river I would push.

[fjuanl]

first of all, your avatar is hilarious.

preflop : if your going to raise, make it at least 320. Reraising and flat calling are both decent options, but if you reraise make it enough to get yourself heads up with someone.

flop : bet is too small, you dont get any information from any of them. sure, they could have trips, but betting that small gets calls from 2 spades or any straight draw. Throw in around 600 and see what happens.

turn : ok, since you have the nut flush draw, but you would still have to be careful of a full house. (he may have flopped it bc if he was on a flush draw and hit on the turn, there wouldnt be any reason to bet that small) it would be too weak to check fold though, so im ok with it

river : i like your line. no reason to push because a call only means you lose.

[andy-akb]

Yea, after reading fjuanls post I agree that calling on the river is the correct play.

[midas06]

Dude you're going to hell

[fasin8ing]

Dude you're going to hell

What ? Why ? How? LOL.. Thats my little cousin.

[TLR]

Preflop: Call/raise more preflop
Flop: Bet more, scary board, try to take it down there.
Turn: What was your game plan here ? I would bet it out - you showed agression throughout the entire hand, dont show weakness when the spade hits.
River: I think you are behind, I would not be at all surprised to see AQ

[fasin8ing]

Preflop: Call/raise more preflop
Flop: Bet more, scary board, try to take it down there.
Turn: What was your game plan here ? I would bet it out - you showed agression throughout the entire hand, dont show weakness when the spade hits.
River: I think you are behind, I would not be at all surprised to see AQ

I thought that .. I should have stuck it to him on the turn .. With that 200 bet. He flipped over A 10 os. I dont mind winning like this.. Its sure not teaching me shit since Iam playing a complete moron. I did give them odds to draw. I come out with more on a raise PF when Iam in early position, middle, co, and super strong 5 X BB on the button. I look for about 3 people max to limp and then raise it up in the blinds to about 3 1/2 X's. Please explain why you come out stronger of the blinds with A K with only three limpers? I come out way stronger with more than 3 people in the hand. If I come out of the SB super strong and the flop comes J Q 8 ... I will c bet... But now I may just be spewing chips. I accomplish more with a 3 1/2 raise because its more to them , but not much more... I keep the pot within reason up untill 4th and 5th street... You can go broke with A K when you are behind and not know it. No betting makes sense if there is no A or K on the board. You have high card Ace, thats all.. Anyone who has paired there draw or has a PP is way ahead into the flop. This is like limping A Qs out of EP IMO without your suit, a draw, or an A or a Q. I dont mind drawers in the hand .. I dont wanna drive anyone out at this point. If I hit, I want to punish them for drawing. In this case .. QQ on the flop is too scary to dump a ton into it.. Agree or disagree?

[GixMage]

ok, first question: how do you want to play the pot? You can either a) try to play a small pot, with AK as a drawing hand, or b) try to play a big pot head up. You do NOT want to play a big pot multiway. So if the answer is (a), you need to just call. If your answer is (b), you need to raise big enough to make it heads up, right around 400-450 (I would say 300-350, but you have to add more for the caller). You HAVE to know why you're raising. This is what Harrington calls a "dark tunnel" raise, it doesnt really accomplish anything, and you gain no information whatsoever.

On the flop, the pot sits at 735. You need to see where you are at, so 250 is a little low. You need to be around 400-500 to get info, although I am not opposed to potting it to take it down.

On the turn, the pot is 1485. Again, this comes down to how you have been trying to play the pot. Right now, you've bet all the way, and gotten called (not raised). The bets havent been big enough to find out enough concrete info. AND, if someone was on a flush draw, they hit it. IF you did not have a the Ace of spades, I would bet 1/2 pot, and fold to reraise. However, since we have the nut flush draw, checking and calling is fine here, specifically because we do NOT want a reraise if we raise. If we are behind, we have redraws, and we may very well have the best hand. The last thing we need here is to raise, get reraised all in, and have to fold (or make a real hard decision). Check/call here because of the draws.

River has the same problem as the turn, we're either way ahead or way behind. If we bet, and get reraised, we're stuck. Check/call is good here, keeps the damage small if we're behind (we have to call something reasonable here), but also increases out chance of picking off a bet from Ax or Kx (or a bluff? pp?).

Just remember, you have to know WHY you're raising, not just that you SHOULD raise. AK is a hand that, depending on the table and position, I will either flat call or reraise big, but it cant be in the middle. You only get the worst from each side. Just my 2 cents. -=J=-