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2 2 HU hit mine .. extraction strategy?

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    Default 2 2 HU hit mine .. extraction strategy?

    Alright .. Hello everyone .. I hope all is well.. Content of this discussion is what is our hero going to do against someone who is betting and raising every hand. I should have poll'd this one.. But I like open forum type discussion . Of course we know we are ahead here .. However; I have been playing passive with maniac because I wanna make sure if I get in there.. I get in there to see the flop and hit something. However; he bets like hes off to the races.. He bets into everything and anything.. His raise button is on autoraise. I have a 2 to 1 chip lead and would like it to be 10 to 1. Remember I cant do anything like raise and get all super crazy cause I want him in this hand. What are you suggestions? I am already checking the flop.. Please answer all three questions if you reply to my thread.

    What should I do when I lead the turn? Bet or check ?

    If he donk bets 600 on the turn ... Raise or smooth call ?

    If he checks the turn .. and the river is harmless .. shove , donk bet into him, or check ?
    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (2 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    Button (t6341)
    hi iam hero (t13659)

    Preflop: hi iam hero is BB with 2, 2.
    Button raises to t900, hi iam hero calls t600.

    Flop: (t2100) 2, 8, Q (2 players)
    hi iam hero checks, Button bets t2000, hi iam hero calls t2000.

    Turn: (t6100) 6 (2 players)

    HERO ?????????????????????????????????
  2. #2
    Honestly, if he doesn't have a queen, there's a good chance you aren't getting any more of his chips no matter what you do.

    Leading the turn makes you look really strong in my opinion, I would definitely check. If he makes a tiny bet of 600, I'd probably go all-in then, that looks a lot more like a bluff.

    If he checks the turn and the river is a king or an ace, definitely go all-in and just hope that he has one and calls you. Actually, that's probably your best bet no matter what the river is, unless he's a player who likes to bluff the river, which you would know better than us having played the entire tournament against him. If you go all-in and he folds, it doesn't mean you played it wrong, it probably just means he had nothing.
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    I'd like to weak lead the flop because HU guys like to jump on that with a raise.

    Then when you check the turn it seems you've given up and they try to push you off, that's when you stick it to em, hehe.

    As played, let him think he's still ahead and check this turn too and hope he puts more money in. I'd think any bet he puts in commits him to the pot so you can dump your stack in after.
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    The way you played it I am looking to check raise the turn.

    Daluchy's idea is good if the guy jumps on it, I have faced a lot of maniac preflop passive post flop heads up guys tho that it wouldnt work on. But with your thoughts on this guy throwing out a 900 on the flop could make him fall into the trap.

    Versus this kinda guy, I think check raising the turn or daluchys method are equally effective. Checkraising the turn might be a better play because you gave him a chance to hang himself. With Daluchys theres the small chance of him folding the flop. If he does check the turn, you will probably not be getting much out of the pot and I would bet half the pot on the river.
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    What about checking it out and letting him kill himself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daluchy
    I'd like to weak lead the flop because HU guys like to jump on that with a raise.
    Then when you check the turn it seems you've given up and they try to push you off, that's when you stick it to em, hehe.
    I have been making plays like this more and more. Its the best when you raise pre flop and flop a good hand and are OOP, you make a normal to smallish raise on the flop like you are just raising cause you raised pre flop, then if you get called you check the turn and out of the few times ive done this they have made a bet around 90% of the time (small sample size though) This works wonders in small stakes cause for some reason people love to call on the flop with nothing or runner draws. I have seen someone call a raise on a q 7 2 flop with JT off suit a few times now.
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    I guess what Iam saying.. If the dude throws down 2000 on the flop .. Why even bother.. Shouldnt I just let him kill himself. You know he will bet 4th street.. Hes got a queen.. Has to.. you throw down 2000 on that flop .. lol .. you better have KK , AA , or Q 3 in his case.. Why even let him think about it with a raise?

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