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  1. #1

    Default 2nd hour of 35k Guaranteed - line check

    Almost pot-sized bets on flop and turn, river, I assumed if I bet, he'd push all-in and it'd be really tough to call, so I decided to either check-call, or check-fold if he shoves. Was this a good line or no?

    PokerStars Game #4434012411: Tournament #21925368, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/03/27 - 18:00:00 (ET)
    Table '21925368 54' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: Pleet (4775 in chips)
    Seat 2: rakeboy (16190 in chips)
    Seat 3: all IQ (6600 in chips)
    Seat 4: Zidane18 (10310 in chips)
    Seat 5: jonica (3600 in chips)
    Seat 6: Andy134 (13280 in chips)
    Seat 7: TbHackworth (8200 in chips)
    Seat 8: raylem (3485 in chips)
    Seat 9: ~US&Co~ (10425 in chips)
    Andy134: posts small blind 75
    TbHackworth: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to TbHackworth [Jc Ac]
    raylem: folds
    ~US&Co~: calls 150
    Pleet: folds
    rakeboy: folds
    all IQ: calls 150
    Zidane18: folds
    jonica: folds
    Andy134: folds
    TbHackworth: checks
    *** FLOP *** [3d Qs Ad]
    TbHackworth: bets 450
    ~US&Co~: calls 450
    all IQ: calls 450
    *** TURN *** [3d Qs Ad] [Tc]
    TbHackworth: bets 1500
    ~US&Co~: calls 1500
    all IQ: calls 1500
    *** RIVER *** [3d Qs Ad Tc] [7s]
    TbHackworth: checks
    ~US&Co~: checks
    all IQ: bets 1950
    TbHackworth: calls 1950
    ~US&Co~: folds
  2. #2
    this would be marginal HU, 3 way I think you have to give up after the turn. If you want to play TP this hard, raise pre flop. Your line is tempting, but he may be more likely to shove a whiffed draw, and more likely to value bet AT.
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    I'm ok with it without reads. Reads would help a lot.

    Looks to me like US&Co has the frush draw. The only hands you are beating now are A and a kicker less than T (but not the 7 or 2), or a draw that didn't quite hit (e.g. QdKd) or air. But there is enough of a chance that you are against a hand like this that I think you have to call.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian
    I'm ok with it without reads. Reads would help a lot.

    Looks to me like US&Co has the frush draw. The only hands you are beating now are A and a kicker less than T (but not the 7 or 2), or a draw that didn't quite hit (e.g. QdKd) or air. But there is enough of a chance that you are against a hand like this that I think you have to call.
    That was my line of thinking too, but I wasn't sure if it was the best way to look at it.

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  5. #5
    You have to know how your opponents like to spend their chips. Some people just don't make big smooth calls on 4th and 5th street without better than one pair or tremendous odds. This is vital information. Sometimes it's prudent to downplay your strength to seek it cheap. I don't think you had that luxury here against a flush draw in hand.

    In this spot I put one player on the flush draw, and one player on the Ax you have slaughtered. Something between A6-AT. I probably value bet the river in this spot, because A) I feel I have the best hand, and B) The board slows down a few hands that beat me.
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  6. #6
    Results:

    He flips Q7d for missed flush draw but a rivered 2nd pair. So we were right Chard, but luck was against me. :P


    Just seeing if you guys figured flush draw or what line you figured.

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