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  1. #1

    Default Thoughts on this hand please

    The last 2 times pp has completed my blind, i have flopped a big hand and ended up pushing him off whatever he had - though i'm pretty sure he is frustrated by this.

    Read on opp : likes to be aggressive with big stack but reluctant to call an all in postflop without a good hand.

    PokerStars Game #4444215249: Tournament #22102960, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/03/28 - 16:32:28 (ET)
    Table '22102960 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: GMCC1718 (8015 in chips)
    Seat 2: nickthefool (4575 in chips)
    Seat 6: otdata (910 in chips)
    GMCC1718: posts small blind 75
    nickthefool: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to nickthefool [2s 3d]
    otdata: folds
    GMCC1718: calls 75
    nickthefool: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Ac 5d 4c]
    GMCC1718: bets 1050
    nickthefool: raises 1050 to 2100
    GMCC1718: calls 1050
    *** TURN *** [Ac 5d 4c] [Kc]
    GMCC1718: bets 450
    nickthefool: calls 450
    *** RIVER *** [Ac 5d 4c Kc] [7c]
    GMCC1718: bets 900
    nickthefool: calls 900

    thoughts on all streets appreciated
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  2. #2
    So, he bet 1050 into a pot of 300. He wants to win it, doesn't he? I think it's either a steal or a flush draw. Possibly ace-rag?

    I am thinking you raise that turn more than the minimum, probably all-in. You have a made straight and your previous hands are setting you up beautifully. People HATE folding to the same guy again and again.

    If he calls and has a club or worse two then those are the breaks. You got your money in with the best hand.

    With that in mind..

    Assuming you minraise and get called, the turn i start to worry but I guess i still push.

    If we got to the river with chips in front of us then i think your call is okay.
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  3. #3

    Default Re: Thoughts on this hand please

    Quote Originally Posted by nickthefool
    The last 2 times pp has completed my blind, i have flopped a big hand and ended up pushing him off whatever he had - though i'm pretty sure he is frustrated by this.

    Read on opp : likes to be aggressive with big stack but reluctant to call an all in postflop without a good hand.

    PokerStars Game #4444215249: Tournament #22102960, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/03/28 - 16:32:28 (ET)
    Table '22102960 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: GMCC1718 (8015 in chips)
    Seat 2: nickthefool (4575 in chips)
    Seat 6: otdata (910 in chips)
    GMCC1718: posts small blind 75
    nickthefool: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to nickthefool [2s 3d]
    otdata: folds
    GMCC1718: calls 75
    nickthefool: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Ac 5d 4c]
    GMCC1718: bets 1050
    nickthefool: raises 1050 to 2100
    GMCC1718: calls 1050
    *** TURN *** [Ac 5d 4c] [Kc]
    GMCC1718: bets 450
    nickthefool: calls 450
    *** RIVER *** [Ac 5d 4c Kc] [7c]
    GMCC1718: bets 900
    nickthefool: calls 900

    thoughts on all streets appreciated
    Hmm I am never good at giving advice thingy, but what range of hands do you put the villian on? It seems to me the pre/post flop play is fine, but that turn is scary!

    However, his bet on the turn is small, which to me, seems like he's scared of the flush, maybe he was betting with a strong ace and the turn scared him and now he doesn't believe you have the flush because of your bet on the flop.

    But I think by the river he's made the flush, I don't know if I would of called the bet on the turn, I would of either folded or reraised.

    There whew how was that ?
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    I push the turn


  6. #6
    i agree with dog. if this is the 3rd-4th time you "push him out" of a pot, he'll probably call with ace rag or a flush draw. The goal is get your money in with best hand and I think you'll get a flop call a lot here
  7. #7
    Thanks for the responses guys.

    Recently i've been trying to focus on assessing my options for each move, and how this will work out depending what opp has.

    So, on the flop villain could have;

    Complete bluff (eg KQ) - folding to all in reraise, slightly more likely to call min reraise but probably folding. If i just call i think its more scary than a reraise cos ive harldy called a bet all tourney

    Flush Draw - unlikely to call all in but may convince themselves they have odds to call a min reraise. unlikely that they would put more chips in the pot after the flop if they dont make their hand though

    Any Ace - i doubt they would believe i had them outkicked if they had an ace, and they probably call a push. I think AJ+ or A4/A5 pushes over a reraise, and weak aces are unable to lay it down but probably only call

    Set - He calls a push, and pushes over a reraise (thinking "ha, not so fun when people reraise you is it? noo! how can you have a straight!").

    Or at least thats what i would think he would do on the flop.

    His turn bet i see either as a made flush or an ace that is clearly scared of the flush, so possibly folding to a reraise.

    Recently i have been taking the line if i have a hand i really dont want to lay down, i just check/call because almost all opps will bluff if they dont have me beat, so i stand to win/lose the same amount with a higher chance that i have the best hand than if i bet.

    The river club reaally scared me, and if he had put me all in i may have actually folded, but he was giving me 7:1 odds to call, if i fold theres next to no chance of me winning the tourney, if i call and lose i am marginally ahead of the short stack still, if i call and win i have a great chance of winning the tourney. So basically calling and losing was so close to just folding i felt it made no difference at all.
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