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  1. #1

    Default Lay down a full house?

    NL 0.25/0.5$ 10 player Ring

    Hero limps with 5 others from MP with :Js:
    Flop


    BB checks
    UTG+1 bets 1.5
    Hero calls 1.5
    SB calls 1.5
    BB calls 1.5
    rest folds

    Pot is 9.5$
    Turn


    BB goes all in for 14 $
    UTG+1 calls 14$ (65$ left)
    Hero (74$ left)

    I would call BB here, but should I fear UTG+1? Only a K beats me since QQ or AA would most likely have raised PRF.

    Read BB = fishy but likes to push the nuts as well
    Read UTG+1 = pretty tight = pocket pair or a K
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    I'm folding here. One of them probably has the king, why are you not pumping this preflop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshuadzl
    I'm folding here. One of them probably has the king, why are you not pumping this preflop?
    I do not raise JJ every time This was one of my JJ limping hands.
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    Why so passive?

    As played, folding is fine here. UTG+1 might have Kx as well as 88-TT, probably Kx. You know almost nothing because of your passive play.
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    Can't over-call here.
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    raising JJ preflop isn't 100 percent the best move here.

    I rarely raise JJ oop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    raising JJ preflop isn't 100 percent the best move here.

    I rarely raise JJ oop.
    I raise 22 oop, so meh...
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    I fold that flop.

    If I limp JJ, it's for a set.
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by sejje
    If I limp JJ, it's for a set.
    Weaksauce.
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    I had a similar situation, but AAJ came out, I had raised the pot but two people called me with A rag. Now I flopped a nice full house, then I raised all in and the two other callers called me again. we turn our card over I had the full house, they had trip Aces, then one of them got their Rag on the river and had the better full house. soooooooooo......It's just one of those poker things..
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    raising JJ preflop isn't 100 percent the best move here.

    I rarely raise JJ oop.
    Interesting, why? Are you only betting Aces and Kings oop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshuadzl
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    raising JJ preflop isn't 100 percent the best move here.

    I rarely raise JJ oop.
    Interesting, why? Are you only betting Aces and Kings oop?
    AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQ, and mix-up with other hands like JTs, 88-JJ etc..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Quote Originally Posted by sejje
    If I limp JJ, it's for a set.
    Weaksauce.
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  14. #14
    Pot= $37.5
    Call = $14
    Pot Odds=2.5/1

    I'm going to have to go against the grain here. I think it's a rare time where I am going to over call. I think in this situation the BB could have a K or one of the other 11 pocket pairs, and Ace or on a complete bluff. UTG+1 at the minimum has a pocket pair, or the two. I think your Jacks will be good here about 50% of the time. I don't think I would reopen the betting but I would call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonCoryon
    Pot= $37.5
    Call = $14
    Pot Odds=2.5/1

    I'm going to have to go against the grain here. I think it's a rare time where I am going to over call. I think in this situation the BB could have a K or one of the other 11 pocket pairs, and Ace or on a complete bluff. UTG+1 at the minimum has a pocket pair, or the two. I think your Jacks will be good here about 50% of the time. I don't think I would reopen the betting but I would call.

    Interesting and I aggree. I couldn't decide at the thime and folded after 29 sec of thinking. BB showed 99 and UTG+1 showed TT. After rethinking the hand and the odds like you did, I am pretty sure that a call could be defended here.
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    Villain is probably afraid of the Kx/higher pair too if he doesn't have it himself. So how about call turn and fold to river push? (If he checks, make a value bet) Easy way to distinguish PP from Kx right?

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