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  1. #1

    Default did i make the right move here?

    this is the first hand of this sng so i dont have any specific tells yet but is this a good play or not? if not why not?

    PokerStars Game #4598888649: Tournament #22933071, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/04/11 - 23:24:47 (ET)
    Table '22933071 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: billye2 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: buddha #00 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 3: texas074 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 4: Burtsc (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: ranspier (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: dmc9296 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: 2cwalmer (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: shrewdabom86 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: Wicked5bar (1500 in chips)
    buddha #00: posts small blind 10
    texas074: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to buddha #00 [Td Qc]
    Burtsc: folds
    ranspier: calls 20
    dmc9296: folds
    2cwalmer: folds
    shrewdabom86: folds
    Wicked5bar: folds
    billye2: calls 20
    buddha #00: calls 10
    texas074: checks
    *** FLOP *** [9c 3h Th]
    buddha #00: bets 80
    texas074: folds
    ranspier: raises 80 to 160
    billye2: folds
    buddha #00: calls 80
    *** TURN *** [9c 3h Th] [6s]
    buddha #00: checks
    ranspier: bets 800
    buddha #00: raises 520 to 1320 and is all-in
    ranspier: calls 520 and is all-in
  2. #2
    wow...

    1) Dont complete stuff early if you cant lay it down when you dont hit strong.

    2) check/raising allin a horrible turn over bet with a marginal hand is never good (especially this early).

    3) Dude...read the stickies and pick up a book (most here suggest Harrington on Holdem)

    Thanx for donating...

    I meant playing (sorry)

    PK
    Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
  3. #3
    well as bad as you say i played that hand the guy was bluffing like I thought he was he just ended up drawing out on the river.


    *** RIVER *** [9c 3h Th 6s] [6h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    buddha #00: shows [Td Qc] (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
    ranspier: shows [Kh 8h] (a flush, King high)
    ranspier collected 3040 from pot
  4. #4
    Sorry...That was meant to be more funny than anything else.

    But I do believe that you played it horribly (results are unimportant). QTo is okay to complete but I'm looking for a stronger flop to continue for all my chips. If you enjoy playing hands like TPGK OOP for lots of chips than more power to you and I still suggest reading a good book like HOH...

    PK
    Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
  5. #5
    supermoneyz1 Guest
    This hand makes my head hurt.

    I honestly dont even like betting in situations like this. I want to save as much as much of my chips for the end game. I dont know where I am at, (whether I am ahead or behind), yet the pot is so small that I dont even care. I dont blame you for betting here, but keep in mind we are hoping for folds and to see a cheap show down.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by buddha
    the guy was bluffing like I thought
    How can you go out on a limb and say this? By your own admission this is the first hand of the tourney. You have no reason to believe a bluff because you have no reads. If you want to be a sheriff and call people down with this type of hand then so be it.

    PK
    Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
  7. #7
    Completing and flop bet are fine but if you don't win it with your flop bet then it's time to get out, even to the minraise.

    On the turn, with that crazy overbet, it's DEFINITELY time to let this one go. Not worth taking this sort of a risk first hand in the tourney with no reads. Opp is not going to fold for another 500 chips with 2000+ in the pot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poskid_1982
    Sorry...That was meant to be more funny than anything else.
    No need to apologize.. degrading people that are asking for advice is hillarious

    OP: I know you were defending your honor and all, but you will get better feedback if you refrain from posting the results. That overbet looked fishy to me too, but I also see people do this with overpairs. I'd be tempted to call here, but I think it would be better to let this one go and keep an eye out for similiar plays in the future. I really can't advocate making that call this early in the tourney without a read.
  9. #9
    No reason to get involded with this hand esspecially the first hand of a SnG.

    I fold preflop.

    I don't lead out on the flop. If you have a had like q10 hitting a 10 isn't really "hitting your hand." Hitting your hand with q10 is the flop coming 8 9 J. No reason to go broke here.

    Even though you did have the best hand when it went in, 80% of the time you will not... Just give up on the hand, it is still veeeeery early.
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    I think the problem I see with playing this fast and loose early in the game is that there are so many hands that dominate you, and then on top of that, there are also many hands that still have a good chance to outdraw you. In fact, even if you are 100% certain that he is on a flush draw, then you should never, ever call the flop raise - you should reraise him nice and big. Of course, that's assuming you have xray-reading ability. Without that supernatural ability, you must be able to lay down top pair Q kicker against player that is demonstrating strength, that is, if you want any hope to consistently win sngs.

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