Hand from another site...

[azureXsmurF]

So I post on chiptalk.net and participate in some of their tourneys, and one of the people over there recently posted this hand. I think the advice most of the people are giving him is wrong but thought I'd post it here and see what you guys say.


100/200 Blinds, 25 Ante
Hero (4505 chips)
Villain 1 (2980 chips)
Villain 2 (1515 chips)

Hero is SB with JJ
Villain 2 calls 200
Hero raises 600 to 800
Villain 1 raises 2155 to 2955 and is all-in
Villain 2 calls 1290 and is all-in
Hero ???


Now I say that a push over his raise and a call by the shortstack indicate that one of them will have him beat most of the time here, or at least in a coinflip (if it were only one opponent). The short stack may not have him beat since he could make that call with TT or AJ, but to call a reraise and a push I don't think this is the case.

The middlestack has no reason to push over his raise without a very good hand, so I don't think he should call both all ins. I think it's better to let them fight it out and if Villain 1 wins I go into heads up with only a slight chip deficit, while if I call and lose, I'm down to about 1500 chips and have to go into push/fold mode.

I would call this with only one push over my raise, but think it's better to get out of the way with my chips and find a better spot. Everyone on this other forum thinks he should call. Would you make this call, or do I have it right to get out of the way?

[caesar66]

Thats tough. It would depend on my read on the above players, whether the reraise with strength, like to limp-raise, or steal a lot etc.

But just looking at the hand, I would probably fold. I think he has the best hand, but it's dicey it will hold up in a 3 way pot.

[Warpe]

Fold. Either one villain is getting eliminated leaving Hero in a fairly evenly stacked HU match or villains are just switching places in the pecking order, so Hero guarantees that he still maintains at least a small chip lead and possibly guarantees that he will place at least second.

Er...minus the initial 800 (doh).

[drmcboy]

eh, I dunno. Pretty tought to fold JJ 3 handed with no reads.

As played I think you have to fold. Typically I'm raising enough here to shut out villian 1. Since you left the door open, you should walk through it and fold.

[azureXsmurF]

MacGrad: calls 2155
*** FLOP *** [Kh 6h 3s]
*** TURN *** [Kh 6h 3s] [6c]
*** RIVER *** [Kh 6h 3s 6c] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MacGrad: shows [Jh Js] (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
ceci1971: shows [Ah As] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
ceci1971 collected 2930 from side pot
Diggerejb: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
ceci1971 collected 2273 from main pot
Diggerejb collected 2272 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7475 Main pot 4545. Side pot 2930. | Rake 0
Board [Kh 6h 3s 6c 9s]
Seat 1: MacGrad (small blind) showed [Jh Js] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 2: ceci1971 (big blind) showed [Ah As] and won (5203) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 6: Diggerejb (button) showed [Ad Ac] and won (2272) with two pair, Aces and Sixes

Looks like all of you guys and myself were correct. ^^

[Scuba Chuck]

I would think if limper instacalls, that's more telling on how to play this hand.

[MAX]

I am really surprised at the responses. 3 handed, I am all in here. I figure I am ahead of Villain1's range by a good bit (66+/AJ+ - and I think that is a little tight), so it is villain 2, the limp caller that I am really concerned about. But with the chip stacks the way they are, there is no way I am folding here. I expect to be ahead most of the time for the side pot.

[Stripclubjunkie]

I fold...