2 hands TT in SB & BB

[Da GOAT]

Maybe this is straight forward but im checking.

My stack is awkward at 15xBB to be sure of my moves.

Please provide your line.

Hand 1

LEVEL IV (50/100)
9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: the bluffer7 (4670 in chips)
Seat 2: Dan Vader (2320 in chips)
Seat 4: MafiaPrince (1950 in chips)
Seat 5: BigOilSlick (1550 in chips)
Seat 7: Roadking51 (1505 in chips)
Seat 8: CelticUabhar (1505 in chips)
CelticUabhar: posts small blind 50
the bluffer7: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CelticUabhar [Td Th]
Dan Vader: folds
MafiaPrince: folds
BigOilSlick: raises 100 to 200
Roadking51: folds
CelticUabhar: ?????????

Hand 2

LEVEL IV (50/100)
9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: smackdab (2185 in chips)
Seat 3: CelticUabhar (1530 in chips)
Seat 5: dave_bonham (3567 in chips)
Seat 6: re84uk (780 in chips)
Seat 7: oldrascal (1380 in chips)
Seat 9: FettSnygga (4058 in chips)
CelticUabhar: posts small blind 50
dave_bonham: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CelticUabhar [Td Th]
re84uk: folds
oldrascal: folds
FettSnygga: folds
smackdab: folds
CelticUabhar: raises 200 to 300
dave_bonham: raises 1700 to 2000
CelticUabhar: ???????????

[taipan168]

1. I call and see a flop and go from there. If you had the big stack I might consider bumping it to 500 to see whether I can get a fold but not with the stack you have.
2. Fold! Whilst it's possible BB thinks you're stealing and is re-stealing, 12x BB is (just) a playable stack, too much risk of JJ-AA here IMO.

[givememyleg]

I hate when people min raise... so stupid.

1 - Calling seems good to me.

2 - Unless I have a good read on this guy being a maniac fold. Even then I might fold.

Might actually just limp the sb and bet the flop. [edit - any safe flop, of course - anyone think this is losing value?]

[taipan168]

Might actually just limp the sb and bet the flop. [edit - any safe flop, of course - anyone think this is losing value?]

I like Goat's preflop line on hand 2. As SNGPT tells you, it's +EV given everybody else has folded to raise from the SB with a wide range of cards here, so it's correct for BB to call with a wider range than if the raise came from EP/MP.

Given that, a thinking player will call the preflop raise with cards that are most often weaker than TT, so you're building a pot where you're ahead and it sets you up to throw out a c-bet of 350 or so on most flops (I do this even if I hit my T provided there aren't draws out there).

I think raising preflop lets you win more chips than just completing the SB.