Interesting AA Hand

[kizzik]

I ran into this freaky hand tonight and am unsure if I ended up doing the right thing. Very early in the tournament, so no solid reads - although UTG+2 has shown down a few substandard hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60 (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB (t2312)
BB (t4549)
UTG (t4326)
UTG+1 (t3363)
UTG+2 (t5152)
MP1 (t2308)
Hero (t2765)
MP3 (t4360)
CO (t5040)
Button (t1785)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A.
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t195, 1 fold, Hero raises to t600, MP3 calls t600, 1 fold, Button calls [t1785] , 1 fold, BB calls [t4549], UTG+2 calls t4354

Hero ???

[adiamant]

The best play with AA is to get all your money in before the flop.

Running poker stove, here are some sample results:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 50.4274 % 50.40% 00.03% { AdAs }
Hand 2: 15.0674 % 15.04% 00.03% { KcKd }
Hand 3: 15.8007 % 15.77% 00.03% { Ts9s }
Hand 4: 18.7045 % 18.68% 00.03% { 8h7h }

That's about the lowest I managed to get you pot equity. It gets better if there's an AK involved, or more underpairs (QQ, JJ, etc.). It's generally between 50% and 70% of a pot that's over 10,000. Push.

[Da GOAT]

I dont know!!!

Im putting it allin.

Guessing AK's and lower PP out there.

[WildBobAA]

Is this a serious post?

[taipan168]

What is it with joke posts today?

[givememyleg]

Fold.

Aces aren't worth it here.

[stranglin]

2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t195, 1 fold, Hero raises to t600, MP3 calls t600, 1 fold, Button calls [t1785] , 1 fold, BB calls [t4549], UTG+2 calls t4354
Hero ???

Where is the 2nd reraise? I see a raise by utg+2 followed a reraise by you. How is the button calling 1785? How is the BB calling 4549? I'm guessing you cut something out. Perhaps, your reraised, button and bb called, then UTG+2 pushed? Regardless of the betting sequence, however, I don't see how you can fold AA. I've heard arguments for folding aces under specific bubble or placing order (like 4th pays significantly better than 5th), but I've never folded aces. Anyhow, I wish this was a problem I had more often. A bunch of all-ins and me sitting with aces.

[retro69]

Fold.

Aces aren't worth it here.

Yeah i totally agree, lay this one down and wait for a better hand.. say... 7,2o?

[Seasider]

Yeah i totally agree, lay this one down and wait for a better hand.. say... 7,4o?

FYP

[givememyleg]

Fold.

Aces aren't worth it here.

Yeah i totally agree, lay this one down and wait for a better hand.. say... 7,2o?

[kizzik]

Is this a serious post?

Yes. I wanted other people's opinions about this.

Against 3 other different pocket pairs I'm about 50-50 to win the hand and have heaps of chips, or to bust out of the tournament.

As this is only the second level of the tourney I was wondering if other people put their tournament at risk so early. Admittedly the rewards of winning are to nearly quadruple-up.

[kizzik]

2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t195, 1 fold, Hero raises to t600, MP3 calls t600, 1 fold, Button calls [t1785] , 1 fold, BB calls [t4549], UTG+2 calls t4354
Hero ???

Where is the 2nd reraise? I see a raise by utg+2 followed a reraise by you. How is the button calling 1785? How is the BB calling 4549? I'm guessing you cut something out. Perhaps, your reraised, button and bb called, then UTG+2 pushed? Regardless of the betting sequence, however, I don't see how you can fold AA. I've heard arguments for folding aces under specific bubble or placing order (like 4th pays significantly better than 5th), but I've never folded aces. Anyhow, I wish this was a problem I had more often. A bunch of all-ins and me sitting with aces.

I'm not sure what happened with the converter, but Button pushed allin over the top of me, and then BB pushed allin over the top of him.

[kizzik]

Here is how the hand went down. I've manually edited some of the hand converter output to make it clear what happened with the raises and pot totals.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60 (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB (t2312)
BB (t4549)
UTG (t4326)
UTG+1 (t3363)
UTG+2 (t5152)
MP1 (t2308)
Hero (t2765)
MP3 (t4360)
CO (t5040)
Button (t1785)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A.
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t195, 1 fold, Hero raises to t600, MP3 calls t600, 1 fold, Button raises to [t1785] , 1 fold, BB raises to [t4549] t60, UTG+2 calls t4354, Hero calls [t2165] t600, MP3 folds.

Flop: (t14278) 3, 8, 5 (4 players)

Turn: (t14278) T (4 players)

River: (t14278) 4 (4 players)

Final Pot: t14278

[elanto]

Yes I would have called this in a second probably, did you loose to TT or 88 or something??

[Werddown]

After you raised 600 chips, you have to call the all ins. You have equity in this pot.

It would be different if you were last to act and 3 people went all-in before you bet. Im not sure if I would call then. Probably. If there was 4 all ins I might fold. lol.

[kizzik]

I just noticed that the hand converter removed the results. Here they are:

Hero shows [ Ad, As ] a pair of aces.
Button shows [ Jh, Jd ] a pair of jacks.
BB shows [ 9d, 9c ] a pair of nines.
UTG+2 shows [ 5c, 5s ] three of a kind, fives.

[kizzik]

After you raised 600 chips, you have to call the all ins. You have equity in this pot.

It would be different if you were last to act and 3 people went all-in before you bet. Im not sure if I would call then. Probably. If there was 4 all ins I might fold. lol.

After I had raised to 600, two players went all in and a third called for approximately 4500 chips leaving himself with about 15o.

I knew I was the best chance to win the hand and would call allin in this position again. The hand just made me think.