On a flush draw - call the post flop raise?

[kevster]

Okay, so I'm dealt JQs (clubs) in small blind. A lot of callers so I complete. Poss raise here? Anyway, what I'm really interested in is post-flop........

I bet the pot of 400 as Ac and 5c come out on the flop (the other card is a 7d). Everyone folds bar one who raises to 1200.

I put him on a pair of Aces. I have around 1700 left he has less than 500 after his raise.

Be interested to know in what people would do next and any general comments on my line so far.

[Staresy]

first off, don't raise here.

second - i check that flop. with so many limpers, it's almost certain one of them has the A. Not so much of a problem, but you risk the situation you faced in such that, if you bet and get raised, you are suddenly faced with a really tough decision in such that you are playing for your stack on nothing but a draw (can you include blinds & stack sizes for all please - ta!). If you check here, and he bets out, you can make a cheaper decision about what to do next.

[Da GOAT]

I dont get it. You got nothing, A on board and you bet into lots of limper??????? You put him on an Ace and think of calling with squat??

What are the blinds tho I think thats irrelevant.

Answer is check/fold the flop.

EDIT: my bad, thought he had QJ spades. Still im check/folding.

[kevster]

Staresy, are you saying "don't bet the flush draw if someone is holding Aces"?

Blinds are 30/60. I don't have everyone's stack sizes I'm afraid as I don't have the history to hand.

[Staresy]

No, I am saying don't bet the flush draw when you are first to act, have multiple players behind you still to act where getting raised (and possibly re-raised) is going to make you puke and be forced to lay down. Check it and you will almost certainly get a cheaper card.

Just out of interest, when you say that you "put him on a pair of Aces", do you mean he holds AA or has paired his A on the board?

[kevster]

I meant that he'd paired the existing Ace (so he was holding one).

Anyway, playing the flush draw but not so expensively is the sort of advice I was after really. Playing flush and straight draws are a definite area I need to improve on and that's why I was asking.

[taipan168]

With one opponent in the hand I might consider betting an OESD or a nut (or close to nut) flush draw out of position as a semi-bluff. With several callers I agree with Staresy, you have to check, hope to get a free card and only call if somebody bets if you're getting the right price (including implied odds if appropriate).

[Rondavu]

I don't bet draws OOP multiway unless I'm more than 75% sure everyone missed. Check/call with odds, ideally having other callers along with you. Semibluffing is an art form. What you did is a play born from inexperience.

[Scuba Chuck]

I don't bet draws OOP multiway unless I'm more than 75% sure everyone missed. Check/call with odds, ideally having other callers along with you. Semibluffing is an art form. What you did is a play born from inexperience.

I'm beginning to like you, Rondavu.

In english, don't bet an ace high board in a multiway pot on a flush draw, OOP. This advice is un SNG related, btw.