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    Default 200nl - JJ on T High Flop - Monster Overbet into me

    Just sat down at the table, no reads on Villain. Should I fold and look for a better spot or go with it? He only has about $90 left.

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    Blinds: $1/$2
    6 players
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    Stack sizes:
    NineHighFTW: $200
    UTG+1: $762.85
    CO: $237.05
    Button: $195.80
    SB: $355.62
    BB: $164.16

    Pre-flop: (6 players) NineHighFTW is UTG with J J
    NineHighFTW raises to $7, 4 folds, BB calls.

    Flop: T 6 9 ($15, 2 players)
    BB bets $68.5, NineHighFTW ???
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    I think you need a read to go further with that hand.


    ***** Hand History for Game 4185498333 *****
    $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 04, 18:54:35 ET 2006
    Table Table 107180 (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 1: robertkellom ( $188.18 )
    Seat 3: der_pott_is_mir ( $266.26 )
    Seat 5: Renton555 ( $313 )
    Seat 7: TunaMonkey ( $269.85 )
    Seat 9: kamyshen ( $134.90 )
    Seat 4: CoDefendant ( $140 )
    TunaMonkey posts small blind [ $1 ].
    kamyshen is sitting out.
    der_pott_is_mir posts big blind [ $2 ].

    Holecards:
    Dealt to Renton555 [ Jh, Jc ]

    FOLD CoDefendant
    RAISE Renton555 , $8
    FOLD TunaMonkey
    CALL der_pott_is_mir, $6

    Flop: (Pot: $17)
    [ Kc, 8d, 2c ]
    BET der_pott_is_mir, $40
    CALL Renton555 , $40

    Turn: (Pot: $97)
    [ 7s ]
    BET der_pott_is_mir, $85
    ALL-IN Renton555 [ $265 ]
    ALL-IN der_pott_is_mir [ $133.26 ]

    River: (Pot: $580.26)
    [ Ah ]
    der_pott_is_mir shows [ 8s, 4s ] a pair of eights .
    Renton555 shows [ Jh, Jc ] a pair of jacks .
    Renton555 wins $46.74 from side pot #1 with a pair of jacks .
    Renton555 wins $531.52 from the main pot with a pair of jacks .


    I had a read.
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    Default Re: 200nl - JJ on T High Flop - Monster Overbet into me

    Quote Originally Posted by aislephive
    Just sat down at the table, no reads on Villain./
    But yeah, how long were you dying to fit that hand into a thread?
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    Default Re: 200nl - JJ on T High Flop - Monster Overbet into me

    [quote="aislephive"]
    Quote Originally Posted by aislephive
    Just sat down at the table, no reads on Villain./quote]

    How long were you dying to fit that hand into a thread?
    just played it yesterday

    been dying ever since.

    Sorry about the misread. Without reads I probably can't call. You don't even have a pokeracehud read on him?
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    Default Re: 200nl - JJ on T High Flop - Monster Overbet into me

    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    just played it yesterday

    been dying ever since.

    Sorry about the misread. Without reads I probably can't call. You don't even have a pokeracehud read on him?
    Yeah *sigh* I haven't got PA Hud, probably a really big mistake. I plan on getting it very soon or using GT+ in the meantime, but in either case I had just sat down so the 5-10 hands probably wouldn't have told me much. I ended up getting a good read on this player later on which makes me think I was probably ahead here, but it's tough to play this with no read.
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    Give unfamiliar villain a donk mulligan when you have this strong but vulnerable hand. I mean really, you only have $7 invested.
    It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
    Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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    "I raise UTG with JJ, unknown calls in the BB, I flop a really weak overpair on a very dangerous board, he leads for $70 into a $15 pot, and has $90 left. WHAT DO I DO???"

    seriously this shouldn't be a hard fold.

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