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  1. #1

    Default AA just before first break in 180 $20 SNG

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t4920)
    SB (t3905)
    BB (t990)
    UTG (t5180)
    UTG+1 (t3800)
    MP1 (t1530)
    Hero (t4585)
    MP3 (t3815)
    CO (t6955)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A.
    UTG calls t100, 2 folds, Hero calls t100, 2 folds, Button calls t100, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t500) 9, Q, 2 (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, Button bets t300, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero raises to t600, Button raises to t1200, Hero calls t600.

    Turn: (t2900) 4 (2 players)

    Button bets t3400

    Hero?

    Thanks.
  2. #2
    WTF ARE YOU DOING PF?!?!??!

    make it 400
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    Raise PF and push the flop
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  5. #5
    Fold to 3-Bet on the flop, and be glad you did. This is never one pair of Queens.
    It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
    Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
  6. #6
    First off, raise preflop. This is a MUST, to define your hand and your position as the aggressor. The only time you limp with AA is if the table is overly aggressive, looking for someone to raise behind you and push.

    As played, you need reads here. Has he been aggressive, loose, maniacal, raises only the nuts, what? How you play here depends on your reads. If he's tight aggro, you're looking at anything from KQ to a set of 9s, if he's looser it could be TPNK all the way to Q9, a set, or just someone on tilt. You have to think about the last 10 minutes of the table, his patterns, his wins and beats, etc. That said, you reraised his bet on the flop, and he reraised your bet. He has a hand, a pretty good one. Calling here is bad imo. I think best case scenario is AQ, but its probably better than that.
    Now, compare this to the fact that you still only have 1 pair. Since you have no information where you are other than he seems to REALLY like his hand, I think you have to fold here. Its risk vs reward, but unless you have a read, Im inclined to think you let him limp into a big hand.

    Now, raise preflop next time to avoid all of this. You would know where you stand, eliminate the trash, and have your opponents on a much tighter range of hands. Just my 2 cents, and good luck!
  7. #7
    I did fold and he showed me a set of Queens.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by SirJobsalot
    I did fold and he showed me a set of Queens.
    You folded too late, but well done.
    It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
    Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
  9. #9
    Still odd here. Why doesn't QQ on the button raise... what bad play.. yuck
  10. #10
    Cmon hero.. raise preflop. You most likely would have been allin preflop against QQ and had a very good chance to double up just before break.
  11. #11
    I do always seem to slow-play Aces. But when it works...

    Like about five minutes ago in the Stars $3.30+R 10k GTD I'm dealt AA. Blinds are 200/400, Ante 25. I raise to 2k, two callers. Flop comes xAx. I check, guy raises 1k, other guy drops out. I use ten-seconds of my TIME, and call. Turn comes blank, guy raises my exact stack...bam!
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by SirJobsalot
    I do always seem to slow-play Aces. But when it works...

    Like about five minutes ago in the Stars $3.30+R 10k GTD I'm dealt AA. Blinds are 200/400, Ante 25. I raise to 2k, two callers. Flop comes xAx. I check, guy raises 1k, other guy drops out. I use ten-seconds of my TIME, and call. Turn comes blank, guy raises my exact stack...bam!
    If you notice though, in that situation you just described, you raised preflop. You can still slowplay your aces after the flop if you think you can induce a bet and come over the top with the better hand, but you still must raise preflop to define your hand and build the pot while you're ahead.
  13. #13
    That hand is very different from the one you posted. The first hand you limped behind an UTG limper. The second hand you raise PF and flopped a set.
  14. #14
    Yeah. I took advice from this forum, and also another forum.
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    wow I think its safe to say never limp aces after someone already limped, there is a good chance he will call a bet if he limped in and you are just giving the bb a free look at the flop. Just raise it to 3xBB at least.
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    [quote="STIdrivr"] Just raise it to 3xBB at least.[/quote]

    Please, I will get upset otherwise.
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  17. #17
    I think the guy limping QQ is doing a worse job actually...
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
  18. #18
    With AA you want to win on overpair value. Preflop you want 1-2 opponents, not more. With one limper and you limping, the SB is probably completing and you have 4+ way pot, decreasing the value of you A's.
    Unless you are pretty confident someone is rainsing you are better off raising preflop.

    On the flop you can see the problem with limping A's. Button can pretty much limp with any 2 in a 5 way pot with position, SB and BB can have any 2. In this situation you have no idea where you stand, reraise usually indicates strength, so you have to fold


  19. #19
    the only time I am limping AA is

    A: folded to me on the SB, and then I'm still probably raising (but not alot)

    B: UTG at a loose table where I am pretty sure someone will raise, and then I can come over the top....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdubs
    the only time I am limping AA is

    A: folded to me on the SB, and then I'm still probably raising (but not alot)

    B: UTG at a loose table where I am pretty sure someone will raise, and then I can come over the top....
    Those are the only times ive limped Aces that I can remember

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