A interresting hand i think

[Stripclubjunkie]

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1015
UTG+1: t2619
Stripclbjnk: t2060
CO: t3005
Button: t5833
SB: t2548
BB: t2920

Pre-flop: (7 players) Stripclbjnk is MP1 with A K
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t100 (pot was t150), Stripclbjnk raises to t465, CO folds, Button raises to t830, 3 folds, Stripclbjnk calls t365 (pot was t1545).

Flop: 6 8 4 (t1910, 2 players)
Stripclbjnk is all-in t1230, Button calls t1230 (pot was t3140).

Turn: 7 (t4370, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t4370)


River: 2 (t4370, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t4370)


Results:
Final pot: t4370

What should i raise to 500? I cant fold to his reraise can i, im getting 3,5:1 odds? But it leaves me shortstacked and somewhat pot commited, so should i just push preflop?

[donkbee]

I cant fold to his reraise can i, im getting 3,5:1 odds?

Odds ... yeah ... I don't know the answer to your question is but my thinking is ... what are you beating here? You raise, this guy min reraises. Does he reraise with JJ+? QQ+? I suppose if you're calling, you're hoping he has JJ, QQ, or AK? But there's a better chance he has KK or AA, leaving you screwed. So majority of the time you're in a flip situation or you're totally dominated. You still have chips, you can keep playing if you fold this to the reraise. So yeah, I'd be folding this ...

[Fnord]

Donktastic.

[Stripclubjunkie]

Donktastic.

What can do with this? Btw Dorf45 is 35/18...

[Scuba Chuck]

Look at this hand

What do you think your opponent has learned about your hand strength (and likely hand range) preflop? The link above is kind of the opposite of this hand, thought it would make a good match.

BTW, preflop, after a limper, and then a 4+ x BB raise, the button reraises to 40% of your stack. What is your hand range for that guy? What is your card equity against that range? What pot odds are you getting after he raises and it's back to you (assume you're playing for stacks in this analysis).

[Stripclubjunkie]

Yeah its a good match. If i put him on TT+,AQs+,AQo+ then my equity is 49,1%.

Hand 1: 49.1747 % 38.86% 10.32% { AKo }
Hand 2: 50.8253 % 40.51% 10.32% { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

My potodds is 3,5:1(28%)...And my hand is good 49%, so that gives us? I cant figure it out, are we good or not?

[Scuba Chuck]

Yeah its a good match. If i put him on TT+,AQs+,AQo+ then my equity is 49,1%.

Hand 1: 49.1747 % 38.86% 10.32% { AKo }
Hand 2: 50.8253 % 40.51% 10.32% { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

My potodds is 3,5:1(28%)...And my hand is good 49%, so that gives us? I cant figure it out, are we good or not?

LOL, this might be something good to learn.

[Stripclubjunkie]

Yeah its a good match. If i put him on TT+,AQs+,AQo+ then my equity is 49,1%.

Hand 1: 49.1747 % 38.86% 10.32% { AKo }
Hand 2: 50.8253 % 40.51% 10.32% { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

My potodds is 3,5:1(28%)...And my hand is good 49%, so that gives us? I cant figure it out, are we good or not?

LOL, this might be something good to learn.

Bare with me Scuba, i'm just a little retarded.

If we shove, then we are loosing in the long run. But if we go with pot odds 3,5:1, we pay 365 to win 1295, so our net profit would be 930. If we do it say 100 times then we would pay 36500 to win 93000, 49% of the time which is 45570, net:+9070 chips. But that would require we could see his cards, so we know when to call/fold. So that leaves us with going allin, which is -EV, so nah. Pot odds, not to good. AK gonna miss 2/3 right, 1/3 we can go on with our hand. So we should change it to we win 93000 33%=30690 and we pay 36500 so net-5810. Answer: dump it...

[Scuba Chuck]

Answer: dump it...

Based on your hand range, you've come to the wrong conclusion.

While you're still working on it, try using the following hand range as well.
AK, QQ+

[Stripclubjunkie]

Answer: dump it...

Based on your hand range, you've come to the wrong conclusion.

While you're still working on it, try using the following hand range as well.
AK, QQ+

That 0f course make it worse, equity 38%. Maybe its like this, pot odds say its a call 3,5:1, i have a 28% to call and a chance to win 72% of the chips. And my equity is 49% or 2:1. Making it a call...Is that correct?

[Scuba Chuck]

Answer: dump it...

Based on your hand range, you've come to the wrong conclusion.

While you're still working on it, try using the following hand range as well.
AK, QQ+

That 0f course make it worse, equity 38%. Maybe its like this, pot odds say its a call 3,5:1, i have a 28% to call and a chance to win 72% of the chips. And my equity is 49% or 2:1. Making it a call...Is that correct?

(Assumes we're playing for stacks)
When it gets back to you, there's t1180 in dead chips, and you have t1595 behind. If we're playing for stacks, the pot odds are 2775:1595 or 1.74:1. This means you need to win here ~ 36% of the time for this to be +cEV.

If you're against KK+, your card equity is 18%, which would make folding pretty good.

[Stripclubjunkie]

Thx Scuba i get it...This is why i stick around at this forum...
So i need to win 36% of the time. If i put him on QQ+,AK my equity is 38% a small edge. If i put him on QQ+,AQ my equity is 51% a big edge.

[Renton]

I think with your stack and M ratio, I push or fold to the reraise. I am leaning toward push, depending on my read on villain.

Also I think raising only to 350 might have given you a chance to get away in case of a reraise, but then again with with your stack I don't know if AK can be gotten away from.

[Stripclubjunkie]

I think with your stack and M ratio, I push or fold to the reraise. I am leaning toward push, depending on my read on villain.

Also I think raising only to 350 might have given you a chance to get away in case of a reraise, but then again with with your stack I don't know if AK can be gotten away from.

You're not gonna believe what he had...

[Renton]

I think with your stack and M ratio, I push or fold to the reraise. I am leaning toward push, depending on my read on villain.

Also I think raising only to 350 might have given you a chance to get away in case of a reraise, but then again with with your stack I don't know if AK can be gotten away from.

You're not gonna believe what he had...

AQ UI

[Stripclubjunkie]

I think with your stack and M ratio, I push or fold to the reraise. I am leaning toward push, depending on my read on villain.

Also I think raising only to 350 might have given you a chance to get away in case of a reraise, but then again with with your stack I don't know if AK can be gotten away from.

You're not gonna believe what he had...

AQ UI

He had T5