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  1. #1

    Default $20 freezeout - 99 hand

    The guy minraised and I knew he was either really weak or really strong. What would you do in this spot. I dont think I have odds to just call for a set.

    PokerStars Game #5096493856: Tournament #25455397, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/05/30 - 01:22:10 (ET)
    Table '25455397 54' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: BigE1132 (12782 in chips)
    Seat 3: fingaz (3385 in chips)
    Seat 4: gthumb (12975 in chips)
    Seat 5: pmaverick (10913 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 6: daveyboy1967 (3455 in chips)
    Seat 7: andr3w321 (5310 in chips)
    Seat 8: chasluk (6814 in chips)
    Seat 9: rubelj (8237 in chips)
    BigE1132: posts the ante 25
    fingaz: posts the ante 25
    gthumb: posts the ante 25
    pmaverick: posts the ante 25
    daveyboy1967: posts the ante 25
    andr3w321: posts the ante 25
    chasluk: posts the ante 25
    rubelj: posts the ante 25
    rubelj: posts small blind 200
    BigE1132: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to andr3w321 [9h 9s]
    fingaz: folds
    gthumb: raises 400 to 800
    pmaverick: folds
    daveyboy1967: folds
    andr3w321...

    andr3w321: raises 4485 to 5285 and is all-in
    chasluk: folds
    rubelj: folds
    BigE1132: folds
    gthumb: calls 4485
    *** FLOP *** [6c Jh 2c]
    *** TURN *** [6c Jh 2c] [7h]
    *** RIVER *** [6c Jh 2c 7h] [8s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    gthumb: shows [Kh Kd] (a pair of Kings)
    andr3w321: shows [9h 9s] (a pair of Nines)
    gthumb collected 11370 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 11370 | Rake 0
    Board [6c Jh 2c 7h 8s]
    Seat 1: BigE1132 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: fingaz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: gthumb showed [Kh Kd] and won (11370) with a pair of Kings
    Seat 5: pmaverick folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: daveyboy1967 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: andr3w321 showed [9h 9s] and lost with a pair of Nines
    Seat 8: chasluk (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: rubelj (small blind) folded before Flop
  2. #2
    Standard. 1600 in pot, you have 5k, might as well shove it in now so you don't have to worry about a tougher decision down the road. Well played.
  3. #3
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    barf hand.

    minraise = I have a huge hand and don't know how to play it or I have a huge stack and am willing to play a lot of pots.

    You don't have a lot of chips compared to the blinds and a double up will help a lot so I don't mind a push there.

    You also have just enough chips and position that I don't mind a call there either and then play the flop. If you need to call preflop/fold flop you can and will still have enough chips that you can play a decent push/fold game.

    If you have a g00t read that the big stack minraiser is only doing this with big PPs/AK then a fold is fine as well.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian
    minraise = I have a huge hand
    Don't take that to the bank. You gotta make a read. Some people min raise Q9 A2s all day no matter what they have in their stack. You'll always find a couple ridiculous luckbox donks this late with chips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian
    minraise = I have a huge hand
    Don't take that to the bank. You gotta make a read. Some people min raise Q9 A2s all day no matter what they have in their stack. You'll always find a couple ridiculous luckbox donks this late with chips.
    Which is why I also said minraise can also = "I have a huge stack and am willing to play a lot of pots."
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    also see "im just a donk who minraises"
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    push better than fold with no read, call sucks.

    call (or fold) is better if you have a read.
  8. #8
    some times the bear gets you
  9. #9
    yeh i think you have to push here, only roughly 5 k in chips...you cant wait for a hand better than nines....
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