ok thanks guys for the great reposenes here and i would just like to add, i have been a SnG and Mtt player for three years now and have had my swings but have now got my bank roll mangment sorted and now this year am up from my frist two years losses $700, and have cashed out over $1800 and have a good bank roll of $1000 so have started to move over to ring games $25 nl as said before. ill keep my 3stacks lose cap in place for awhile to keep away form tilting but have'nt had to do this for along time, as for the win/cap having only played maybe 4000 hands or so i have'nt adjusted to keeping my game at the same level and have in the past called all-in on the river when i know i have been sucked out on( this being the worst part of my game i do it way to much and feel like a donk). but with all your posts here i will start to put a mental note in that after 3xbuy-in to start to consentrat on my game and keep it steady, again thanks