Two hands from today at 50NL

[Rockymv]

Hand 1 - Any turn bet commits me, what do I do?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($46.40)
MP3 ($46.04)
CO ($41.75)
Button ($11.40)
SB ($47.75)
BB ($68.15)
UTG ($43.15)
Hero ($46.30)
MP1 ($38.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J. SB posts a blind of $0.25. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG raises to $2, Hero calls $2, 6 folds.

Flop: ($5.25) 9, 8, 3 (3 players)
UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $12, UTG calls $8.

Turn: ($29.25) 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero ?????????????????


Hand 2 - Fold to the push?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($24.48)
MP1 ($48.50)
MP2 ($85.95)
CO ($48.58)
Button ($44.70)
SB ($152.26)
Hero ($60.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, K. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2) 9, 4, K (4 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $6, MP1 folds, Button calls $44.20 (All-In), SB folds, Hero ????

[freechus9]

Hand 1: Make it 15. If he raises you can dump.
Hand 2: Smells like a set. I'd fold.

[a500lbgorilla]

I dont see the problem with the first hand, it probably made your hand better. No reason not to bet.

[andy-akb]

I dont see the problem with the first hand, it probably made your hand better. No reason not to bet.

So you push? What hands call the push that we beat? TT is the only hand I can think of, we are behind any other pp that would call, 98 or any random 3. Beating only one hand I think we have to check behind the turn and hopefully induce a bluff on the river that we can call. What reads do you have of your villain, would he lead the flop and call a raise with a FD? I think the equirt we may be giving up to a FD is going to be offset by the likely chance of a bet on the river by a hand we beat. The one other comment I have for this hand is that Id probably reraise preflop.

Hand 2, again, what are the reads you have, against an unknown I fold. I have to be pretty sure the guy is a donk to make the call. If his range is a combo draw or a set we are behind, if we add AKo or AK not of hearts then we are a slight favorite, but I dont know what kind of range we can put an unknown on here. Top and bottom two isnt a hand I want to play for stacks with against an unknown.

[Dislexsik]

I dont see the problem with the first hand, it probably made your hand better. No reason not to bet.

So you push? What hands call the push that we beat? TT is the only hand I can think of, we are behind any other pp that would call, 98 or any random 3. Beating only one hand I think we have to check behind the turn and hopefully induce a bluff on the river that we can call. What reads do you have of your villain, would he lead the flop and call a raise with a FD? I think the equirt we may be giving up to a FD is going to be offset by the likely chance of a bet on the river by a hand we beat. The one other comment I have for this hand is that Id probably reraise preflop.

Hand 2, again, what are the reads you have, against an unknown I fold. I have to be pretty sure the guy is a donk to make the call. If his range is a combo draw or a set we are behind, if we add AKo or AK not of hearts then we are a slight favorite, but I dont know what kind of range we can put an unknown on here. Top and bottom two isnt a hand I want to play for stacks with against an unknown.

U can also put him on AT+ ,JT,98,any flush draw or any pocketpair that didn't hit his set.I see alot of ppl calling a bet like this with 2 overcards or pocketpairs (because they put u on overcards) on 50NL.

[andy-akb]

U can also put him on AT+ ,JT,98 or any flush draw.I see alot of ppl calling down a board like this with 2 overcards on 50NL.

Which hand are you talking about?

[Dislexsik]

The first one.

[a500lbgorilla]

The last thing I do is push on hand 2, im looking to bet 12-15 bucks. I dont like inducing a bluff when we can win the pot right here on a board with too many scary rivers.

[andy-akb]

U can also put him on AT+ ,JT,98,any flush draw or any pocketpair that didn't hit his set.I see alot of ppl calling a bet like this with 2 overcards or pocketpairs (because they put u on overcards) on 50NL.

AT+ is a stretch, they may have made it this far, but they arent sticking around for another bet. 98 is a possibility, but Id be surprised to see it raised UTG, some players might, but most dont so without a read I dont like putting that in his range. JTs may be a possbility, but again I dont theyd be calling off their stack here with that hand, and again without a read I dont want to assume somebody is raising that. With a raise on the flop they cant be putting us on just overcards, I think many will think atleast a pair, probably an overpair and even if they think we have overcards, its unlikely they are calling off their stack without some sort of hand, most of which beat us. Most players are not betting a flushdraw and calling a raise with it, and the other hands we dont really need to protect against and they wont be calling a big bet with those hands. Id just check behind here.