Ak qualifer to a 50

[ripjohngotti]

$7+$1 (real money), hand #658,803,681
Qualifier to $50+4 Multi Table Tournament, 29 Jun 2006 01:21 AM
Seat 1: speer420 ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 2: Uaedan ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 3: WorldB4 ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 4: ladyluck18x ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 5: HOTTTCARL ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 6: xWINGOx ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 8: RIPJohnGotti [KC,AD] ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 9: WoodBlues ($1,500 in chips)
Seat 10: Matty20 ($1,500 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
ladyluck18x posts blind ($10), HOTTTCARL posts blind ($20).

PRE-FLOP
xWINGOx folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $90, WoodBlues folds, Matty20 folds, speer420 bets $200, Uaedan folds, WorldB4 folds, ladyluck18x folds, HOTTTCARL folds, RIPJohnGotti calls $110.

FLOP [board cards 5S,AS,3H ]
RIPJohnGotti checks, speer420 bets $200, RIPJohnGotti calls $200.

TURN [board cards 5S,AS,3H,10D ]
RIPJohnGotti bets $1,100 and is all-in, speer420 calls $1,100 and is all-in.

RIVER [board cards 5S,AS,3H,10D,3C ]


SHOWDOWN
RIPJohnGotti shows [ KC,AD ]
speer420 shows [ AH,10H ]
speer420 wins $3,030.


My good friend told me i shoulda check raised flop or turn, but he doubted he would have gotten off the hand.

Your inputs?

[GatorJH]

I am ok with your line here.

Yes, you could have check-raised the flop, but you had TPTK, an opponent who wanted to have the lead, and although the board is somewhat you are probably ahead here in most cases.

I also agree that villian, most likely wouldn't have folded to a check-raise.

[Da GOAT]

the flop is where you need to make a decision.
An ace and 2 rags!!!
Villian c/b's so you push over the top.
I dont see the objective in calling.
your 1-on-1, no draws so try take it down now!!!

really dont like the call then push the turn!!!!

[GatorJH]

really dont like the call then push the turn!!!!

Why? Are you worried that the 10 made his hand?

I do agree that a check-raise on the flop could be a better line, but let's say you check, he bets 200, you raise it up to 600 and he calls. What is your line on the turn when the 10 hits?

[Da GOAT]

The ten wouldnt worry me to the point of playing cautiously but its defo more reasonable than hitting 2 pair with the flop.

Honestly I would raise allin on the flop as opposed to raise 600 leaving me with 700 in reserve.
so if i did bet 600 on flop im getting it allin on the turn.

hmm i trying to think why you bet just under half your stack instead of pushing.

MAybe read on villian could be,maybe, is a thinking player and bet of 600 as oppossed to allin seems weak or afraid of putting it allin. villian is donk but can fold weak aces to a push but calls if bet is smaller. im just airing thoughts outloud here not making a solid point.

[GatorJH]

Honestly I would raise allin on the flop as opposed to raise 600 leaving me with 700 in reserve.
so if i did bet 600 on flop im getting it allin on the turn.

hmm i trying to think why you bet just under half your stack instead of pushing.

In real life I would have pushed on a flop check-raise, but was making the point that even with chips behind you still end up with all of your chips in the middle.

The big adavantage a check-push on the flop has is that villian is more likely to lay this down than any other line.

[Da GOAT]

In real life I would have pushed on a flop check-raise, but was making the point that even with chips behind you still end up with all of your chips in the middle.

The big adavantage a check-push on the flop has is that villian is more likely to lay this down than any other line.

Yeah im with you on getting it in the middle. I dont get your meaning here. You like the push on the flop but it doesnt matter much as chips are gonna go in anyway and more likely to get a call if you bet 600 on flop. then the rest goes in.
yeah its a line alrite besides pushing the flop. might try it in the home games with mates to mix up my play.

[WildBobAA]

I don't understand the line. If you're going to open push the turn, just CR the flop AI. I want to know your reasoning.