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    Default $4 180 man, some hands, need review please!

    I just finished this game and I'd like some hands reviewed please! Was unsure on some hands Thanks!

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t3370)
    SB (t550)
    BB (t1710)
    UTG (t1310)
    UTG+1 (t2930)
    MP1 (t1460)
    MP2 (t1770)
    MP3 (t1860)
    Hero (t1470)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q.
    5 folds, Hero raises to t100, 1 fold, SB calls t90, BB calls t80.

    Flop: (t300) 2, 4, 8 (3 players)
    SB checks, BB bets t40, Hero raises to t260, SB calls t260, BB folds.

    Turn: (t860) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets t190 (All-In), Hero calls t190.

    River: (t1240) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t1240

    I thought he may have A8 but I can't fold the turn for 190 more can I?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP2 (t6620)
    CO (t1525)
    Button (t1390)
    SB (t1000)
    BB (t2790)
    UTG (t1410)
    UTG+1 (t1075)
    Hero (t2180)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, K.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, 4 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t90) K, Q, 9 (3 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks.

    Turn: (t90) 5 (3 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t60, SB calls t60, BB folds.

    River: (t210) 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, UTG+1 checks.

    Final Pot: t210

    Do I play this hand OOP or just toss it? This hand came up many times. I usually tossed it if it wasn't raised to me, although sometimes folding it.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 (t7490)
    MP2 (t1375)
    CO (t1060)
    Button (t1270)
    SB (t2460)
    BB (t2070)
    UTG (t1948)
    Hero (t2135)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, T.
    UTG raises to t60, 1 fold, MP1 calls t60, 1 fold, CO calls t60, 2 folds, BB calls t30.

    Flop: (t255) 8, J, K (4 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets t60, MP1 calls t60, CO raises to t120, BB folds, UTG raises to t180, MP1 folds, CO calls t60.

    Turn: (t675) 6 (2 players)
    UTG bets t150, CO raises to t820, UTG calls t670.

    River: (t2315) Q (2 players)

    Final Pot: t2315

    No reads on what a minraise means from him.. best to toss it?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t6420)
    SB (t2695)
    BB (t2315)
    UTG (t2445)
    UTG+1 (t2605)
    MP1 (t2305)
    MP2 (t638)
    Hero (t2060)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, 8.
    2 folds, MP1 calls t50, MP2 raises to t638, 1 fold, Button calls t638, 2 folds, MP1 folds.

    Flop: (t1401) K, 3, 5 (2 players)

    Turn: (t1401) J (2 players)

    River: (t1401) 3 (2 players)

    Final Pot: t1401

    This hand was a tough one. I wasn't sure if I wanted to race already, especially with so many players behind me to act. Should I have called and raced or let it go and find a better spot? His range should be wide due to a short stack, am I correct?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG+1 (t6168)
    MP1 (t2020)
    MP2 (t15245)
    MP3 (t1478)
    CO (t4585)
    Hero (t4720)
    SB (t905)
    BB (t3100)
    UTG (t5855)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 6.
    2 folds, MP1 raises to t600, 4 folds, SB raises to t905, BB calls t705, MP1 calls t305.

    Flop: (t2715) K, T, 6 (3 players)
    BB checks, MP1 bets t1115 (All-In), BB calls t1115.

    Turn: (t4945) 8 (3 players, 1 all-in)

    River: (t4945) 3 (3 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t4945

    Again, another PP hand that I wasn't sure if I should race with or not.. stupid flop

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    BB (t11670)
    UTG (t5672)
    Hero (t7085)
    MP1 (t3247)
    MP2 (t2895)
    MP3 (t5594)
    CO (t10493)
    Button (t15420)
    SB (t5857)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, Q.
    1 fold, Hero raises to t600, 6 folds, BB raises to t2800, Hero calls t2200.

    Flop: (t5775) A, K, 6 (2 players)
    BB bets t1000, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t6775

    Toughest hand of the tournament I believe, and a very important one.. just got moved to the table, no read on BB He bets 1k into 5.5k, 1/5 of the pot, seems like a smaller PP seeing if he is good or not, yet I'm too pussy to push and find out. What is your play and why?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB (t8797)
    BB (t8386)
    UTG (t355)
    UTG+1 (t10819)
    MP1 (t7073)
    Hero (t5385)
    CO (t14250)
    Button (t17351)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A.
    3 folds, Hero raises to t1800, 3 folds, BB calls t1200.

    Flop: (t3350) 6, 5, 4 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets t3535 (All-In), BB folds.

    Final Pot: t6885

    Best to play this fast? Not liking the flop too much, it is very coordinated. If he played 44, 55 or 66 from BB, pay him off, right?,With the pot already being more than my stack.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 (t8947)
    MP2 (t8891)
    CO (t10319)
    Button (t5973)
    Hero (t7085)
    BB (t14050)
    UTG (t17151)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, T.
    4 folds, Button calls t600, Hero completes, 1 fold.

    Flop: (t1250) 2, 8, T (2 players)
    Hero bets t1200, Button calls t1200.

    Turn: (t3650) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets t1800, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t5450

    My hand is weak, I don't have too many outs nor draws IF I am behind and it is a good chunk of my stack (he has me covered) to find out if I'm even ahead or not, too many hands beat me here, right?? Is check/fold the best play or..?

    Went out in 20th when AK lost to KT, yay!!

    Thanks to ALL who help review these hands and give their thoughts, I REALLY appreciate it, thanks FTR!
  2. #2
    alright hartlin here goes

    first of all, thanks for the sympathy on the whine post lol - its just frustrating when i feel like i play a perfect day and my overall ROI comes out to like 18%...

    also, im very tired as i write this, so if anything doesnt make sense just post and ill try to follow up

    hand 1
    you played this just fine - you put your money in ahead of A8 if thats what it is, and theres just no way you can fold for that much more - if he has A8 then more power to him, note it and beat him next time

    hand 2
    honestly, i think you played this hand really poorly. for starters, i dont really like the KQ limp from your position - however, since the 180 plays more like a multi than and SnG, its certainly not your greatest crime here.

    why do you check behind on that flop? youre playing against the blinds, who both limped, so neither figures to have a hand that might checkraise you, but they could both have small draws (gutshot, small flush) that you dont want to give a free card for. youve just gotta bet that flop, and go after it hard.

    also on the river, there really isnt a realisitic hand that beats you - why not value bet on the end?

    hand 3
    i toss that every time... AT just doesnt stand up against UTG raises. honestly, even AQo isnt looking all that great to an UTG raise

    hand 4
    sure hes got a wide range that he could push with, but youd have to call almost 13x BB - if you have him dominated, then great, but what if youre racing or he has you dominated? then youre screwed - also, you really dont want company if youre going to do this. either reraise to isolate or muck it.

    personally, i have no desire to race that early - for me 88 is a toss for anything more than a minraise, and maybe not even then.

    hand 5
    same as hand 4

    hand 6
    this one is tricky. preflop, im not sure i like the cold call with QQ unless you have a definite plan for the flop and contingencies with overs. This bet smells very fishy, but it could be AK milking you

    i would say calling is the worst - either raise him to represent AK yourself or muck it. i think you have to fold that one (arghhh) because that bet is just so fishy and youll still have lots of chips if you get out now

    hand 7
    this is just fine - you only have the pot to bet, and you cant let the BB draw against aces. well played

    hand 8
    was the BB sitting out? that would actually change a lot for me, because i would play the hand differently preflop

    if the BB is sitting out, then i look for the button to try and steal, and by just calling, i think hes showing a lot of weakness - maybe KJ or something that he just cant call a raise with - i think you just pick up the BB there

    as played, i think you had to check fold... but remember you picked up the open end draw, so unless he has a K you likely have thirteen good outs on the river

    hope that helps
  3. #3
    Uhhh, hand 2, I folded preflop... heh, you must be tired

    My thoughts on hand 6, with QQ, was that it is PROBABLY AK (preflop) so I would see a flop and pick up the pot on the flop if overs didn't fall and I would be able to get away from the pot if overs did fall, thats why I smooth called preflop, mistake?

    On the final hand, the 1800 bet was roughly 1/3 of my stack I believe. Hell, I didn't even see the OESD (thats what happens when I play at 4am). I guess a call or push would be fine there (assuming he could fold to a push), and yes, the BB was sitting out, thats why I came along.
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    1st off, when you post a bunch of hands make sure to number them. It makes explaining them easier.

    Hand 1 - No way you're folding overpair getting 5:1
    Hand 2 (KQ) - Just toss it this early. If it's sooted and lots of pots have lots of limpers then I might limp in. If you do this don't get married to TP.
    Hand 3 (AT) - Toss, there are a ton of people left to act behind you. Full table OOP, AT is trash.
    Hand 4 (88) - If I'm last to act I call (not sure if that's good). With so many behind, fold.
    Hand 5 (66) - You need at least 10:1 implied odds to chase a set. You only have 8x stack. It's not worth it, good fold.
    Hand 6 (QQ) - That sucks. Without a read I can't imaging calling. It could easily be AK, KK+ trying to suck you in
    Hand 7 (AA) - Standard
    Hand 8 (9T) - With no read (although you should have one by now) it's fine


    After reading the responses. Hand 8 you have him coverd (7k to 5k). Re-raise to 2400, if he pushes you can fold and you're still alive. If he calls, you have a pot sized bet left if you like the flop.
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  5. #5
    Yeah, looking back I believe that I probably should have raised preflop knowing that BB was folding (because he was sitting out).

    About the QQ hand, is it best to just call or push over his reraise?
  6. #6
    yeah... sorry about hand 2 hartlin

    i was pretty tired though lol =)

    on the subject of QQ i personally prefer to push there... but thats a very tough decision because realistically there are four hands he can make that raise with - AA, KK, AK, and JJ.
    i would rather race at that point though... because if he comes over the top with AQ or AK you just might get him to fold preflop.

    if he has AA or KK youre pretty much gonna get killed either way so i dont think it really matters when you get it in
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