When a Steal attempt goes horribly wrong...

[magneticskull]

I know this move sucked... But since I am a fan of irony, I wanted to share...

Karma is real.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG (t3145)
UTG+1 (t3735)
Hero (t2100)
MP2 (t7690)
CO (t1715)
Button (t5040)
SB (t2370)
BB (t1125)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3, Q.
2 folds, Hero raises to t450, 3 folds, SB calls t375, 1 fold.

Flop: (t1050) K, A, T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t1650 (All-In), SB calls t1650.

Turn: (t4350) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t4350) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t4350

Results in white below:
Hero has 3c Qs (one pair, aces).
SB has Qh Jh (straight flush, ace high).
Outcome: SB wins t4350.

[IowaSkinsFan]

lol, think...... THINK buddy.

[magneticskull]

The push was really donk-a-riffic, wasn't it?
I figured I'd push him off a middle pair... and I was drawing for a straight... He might fold KJ too...
...and I'm an IDIOT.
It's like a GOOD BEAT story.
Maybe we should tell more of these

[Warpe]

pretty funny tho

[ripjohngotti]

Noone is a fan of these plays probably because the board was so scarey

[Roco415]

i think it would have been a decent play except you werent paying attention to how thehand played out...once he calls your raise, you immediately shouldfeel you are most likely done with the hand unless a miracle flop comes, but at the flop of three high cards, you know a hand he would call a pre flop raise with prob hit that board, why stab at it...conserve your chips and double trhough someone in a better spot

[magneticskull]

[disclaimer: I have no earthly right to defend this move...]
Basic problem with bluffing... Occasionally, the opponent has EXACTLY the hand you are trying to rep.
So the question is, is there a scenario where Opp folds PP to a push on this flop?
(I mistakenly thought calling that raise required PP of some kind, really didn't think QJ was in the range...)

Would anyone like to comment on the effect of table position on this scenario? In some ways, I feel like I forced myself into this move by not being in position and having a personal (leak?) problem with checking as first action. Would checking have saved me from this guy? (Maybe not with My donkey hat on...)

[biondino]

[disclaimer: I have no earthly right to defend this move...]
Basic problem with bluffing... Occasionally, the opponent has EXACTLY the hand you are trying to rep.

You have wonderful, fantastic, beautiful big balls to rep a royal flush dude

[magneticskull]

Actually, I was kinda hoping he thought I had QJoff...(made straight) or even AA (trips)
The royal didn't enter the equation (naturally) until I SAW it. But then it made complete and perfect sense.
Horribly painful, mind crushing, I am a total jerk sort of sense...

Oh the sweet pain of learning...

[Warpe]

(I mistakenly thought calling that raise required PP of some kind, really didn't think QJ was in the range...)

Would anyone like to comment on the effect of table position on this scenario?

He's in the SB, so your raise is discounted. As it is, he's planning on completing preflop, so paying two more BB to see the flop with QJ sooted is a reasonable call, unless he's a complete nit. If you're going to bluff, you need to bluff harder preflop to fold the blinds.

As far as your position goes, I can see making this play from the BN preflop with any two, but from MP1 I'd at least want some sooted junk in my hands in case I had to play postflop.

Would folding preflop have saved me from this guy?

FYP

Barring that, yes, you obv needed to give this up on the flop.

[darius_uk]

If your going for a bluff, i humbley think the min req is a half decent hand. so u got something to fall back on. I.E.. Q 3 Suited possible flush.
Good story though.

Please corret me if im wrong. only been playing 1 year.
Leanrt every think i know from reading the essays on this site. I get called a shark in my home games now!
FANTASTIC READ! A MUST.
Whats Ripptyde up to these days????

[magneticskull]

Darius,
You are absolutely right...


The only thing wrong is your spelling:
you're
humbly
correct
I'm
Learned
What's

Of course, proper grammar and spelling skills won't keep you from sending me to the rail when I try crap moves like this one, eh?

[swiggidy]

This is on the bubble, about 22 left, 18 ITM. GG tourney.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB (t8330)
UTG (t48521)
MP (t15744)
CO (t7317)
Hero (t16580)
SB (t13476)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, A.
3 folds, Hero raises to t2000, 1 fold, BB calls t1200.

Flop: (t3450) T, J, 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t3000, BB raises to t6280, Hero calls t3280.

I had already C-bet a couple times against villain.

[Renton]

ya reserve the button for raising with complete trash

[drmcboy]

pre flop is iffy.

I like the move on the flop. Just about the only hands that check and then call are the FD and made straight, or both ().

if any of you all check call here with A9, you really suck. KJ is only a little better on that board. READ it for god's sake, you can't slow play that flop without a monster.