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  1. #1

    Default Explain this hand to me.

    PokerStars Game #5458500781: Tournament #27569190, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/07/05 - 00:23:21 (ET)
    Table '27569190 3' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: ADSL trigga (700 in chips)
    Seat 2: DayDreamer49 (1420 in chips)
    Seat 3: mkellar (2220 in chips)
    Seat 4: WM Player (830 in chips)
    Seat 5: Wetdog13 (1380 in chips)
    Seat 6: bunky121 (1370 in chips)
    Seat 7: MarginOfErrr (1490 in chips)
    Seat 8: KJLMetsFan (1720 in chips)
    Seat 9: CABOMAGIC (2370 in chips)
    MarginOfErrr: posts small blind 10
    KJLMetsFan: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to MarginOfErrr [5s 2h]
    CABOMAGIC: folds
    ADSL trigga: folds
    DayDreamer49: calls 20
    mkellar: calls 20
    WM Player: folds
    Wetdog13: calls 20
    bunky121: calls 20
    MarginOfErrr: calls 10
    KJLMetsFan: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5h 8c Ts]
    MarginOfErrr: bets 180
    KJLMetsFan: calls 180
    DayDreamer49: folds
    mkellar: folds
    Wetdog13: calls 180
    bunky121: folds
    *** TURN *** [5h 8c Ts] [3h]
    MarginOfErrr: bets 290
    KJLMetsFan: calls 290
    Wetdog13: calls 290
    *** RIVER *** [5h 8c Ts 3h] [Th]
    MarginOfErrr: bets 20
    KJLMetsFan: folds
    Wetdog13: folds
    MarginOfErrr collected 1530 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1530 | Rake 0
    Board [5h 8c Ts 3h Th]
    Seat 1: ADSL trigga folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: DayDreamer49 folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: mkellar folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: WM Player folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Wetdog13 folded on the River
    Seat 6: bunky121 (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: MarginOfErrr (small blind) collected (1530)
    Seat 8: KJLMetsFan (big blind) folded on the River
    Seat 9: CABOMAGIC folded before Flop (didn't bet)







    ?????
  2. #2
    OK step by step, this is my explanation of the hand.

    Step 1) You called PF with 52o. Pretty horrible hand, but with that many limpers, you were getting 11-1 on your money to see the flop, so not as horrible as calling with your 52 in the other thread you posted.

    2) You flop bottom pair with no kicker and bet out into a field of 6 players. Not only that, but you bet 180 into a pot of 120, which is a massive overbet. If you wanted to see where you were (which I can tell you with this many runners, is nowhere), try betting about half the pot, or 60. Any pair of tens, any 67, any J9 and probably any 2 big cards are calling this. Result - you get 2 callers. Consider this bet a probe for information, and the calls were the information you paid for. You now know you are beat, and are done with the hand. Whatever you do, don't put any more money in this pot.

    Step 3) Doh! The turn hasn't helped your hand at all, you've had two callers from the previous betting round, and you lead out for 290! You still get two more callers, and you have now dumped a third of your chips on a horrible pair. You better pray for a miracle.

    Step 4) The river pairs the board and brings a third suited card on board for a possible flush. You are totally, totally beat. Don't bet any more chips. Oops, a whimpering, apologetic bet of 20 on the end. Anyone with ANY kind of a hand is calling this.

    Unreal. Both your opps fold. They could only have both been drawing to straights that didn't hit. You got massively lucky to get out of this with the shirt still on your back. Still, weird shit like this happens in low buyin tournies every day.

    STOP BETTING WITH BOTTOM PAIR NO KICKER LIKE YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF HAND. YOU DON'T.
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  3. #3
    dont expect to win much by leading bottom pair no kicker into 6 opponents, especially when you bet the pot and lead the turn strong.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Anaemik
    Unreal. Both your opps fold. They could only have both been drawing to straights that didn't hit. You got massively lucky to get out of this with the shirt still on your back. Still, weird shit like this happens in low buyin tournies every day.

    Ya I'm still scratching my head how someone would fold to a bet of 20 with 1500 in the pot.
  5. #5
    you shouldnt be focused on that...you should make sure you get rid of your habit of putting in lots of chips with low pair. you shouldnt have even considering putting 1 chip in after seeing that flop.
  6. #6

    Default Re: Explain this hand to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Margin Of Error
    PokerStars Game #5458500781: Tournament #27569190, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/07/05 - 00:23:21 (ET)
    Table '27569190 3' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: ADSL trigga (700 in chips)
    Seat 2: DayDreamer49 (1420 in chips)
    Seat 3: mkellar (2220 in chips)
    Seat 4: WM Player (830 in chips)
    Seat 5: Wetdog13 (1380 in chips)
    Seat 6: bunky121 (1370 in chips)
    Seat 7: MarginOfErrr (1490 in chips)
    Seat 8: KJLMetsFan (1720 in chips)
    Seat 9: CABOMAGIC (2370 in chips)
    MarginOfErrr: posts small blind 10
    KJLMetsFan: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to MarginOfErrr [5s 2h]
    CABOMAGIC: folds
    ADSL trigga: folds
    DayDreamer49: calls 20
    mkellar: calls 20
    WM Player: folds
    Wetdog13: calls 20
    bunky121: calls 20
    MarginOfErrr: calls 10
    KJLMetsFan: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5h 8c Ts]
    MarginOfErrr: bets 180
    KJLMetsFan: calls 180
    DayDreamer49: folds
    mkellar: folds
    Wetdog13: calls 180
    bunky121: folds
    *** TURN *** [5h 8c Ts] [3h]
    MarginOfErrr: bets 290
    KJLMetsFan: calls 290
    Wetdog13: calls 290
    *** RIVER *** [5h 8c Ts 3h] [Th]
    MarginOfErrr: bets 20
    KJLMetsFan: folds
    Wetdog13: folds
    MarginOfErrr collected 1530 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1530 | Rake 0
    Board [5h 8c Ts 3h Th]
    Seat 1: ADSL trigga folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: DayDreamer49 folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: mkellar folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: WM Player folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Wetdog13 folded on the River
    Seat 6: bunky121 (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: MarginOfErrr (small blind) collected (1530)
    Seat 8: KJLMetsFan (big blind) folded on the River
    Seat 9: CABOMAGIC folded before Flop (didn't bet)







    ?????

    preflop call is ok - you're getting massive odds. on the flop - you have a shit hand with no kicker, and yet you overbet. to "see where you are", you do not need to bet that much, a smaller bet (pot-sized, or 2/3 pot) would do the same thing. i actually do not mind the bet on the turn too much, because the 3 of hearts looks like a complete blank that most likely didn't help anybody in the hand. the problem with that bet considering how bad your hand is, is that the only hands that call, most likely have you beat (unless they are both drawing to straights and/or flushes).

    the river play is flat our terrible. i absolutely HATE your bet. it does not look like a value bet, and it doesn't accomplish anything. any reasonable hand (and there is a very wide range of hands here) will call the puny river bet, considering how much $ is in the pot already and the action on previous streets. you were extremely lucky in this hand - most of the time you are going to be raised on the river there. and most likely it will be a value bet that you will be forced to call because of how much $ is in the pot.
  7. #7
    the guy with the 8 misclicked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Margin Of Error
    Quote Originally Posted by Anaemik
    Unreal. Both your opps fold. They could only have both been drawing to straights that didn't hit. You got massively lucky to get out of this with the shirt still on your back. Still, weird shit like this happens in low buyin tournies every day.

    Ya I'm still scratching my head how someone would fold to a bet of 20 with 1500 in the pot.
    They timed out or clicked "fold to any bet"
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  9. #9
    oooh, fold to any bet, change mine to that.
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    worst played hand ever

    (sorry, not trying to attack you personally, but it just is)
  11. #11
    At no point in this hand should you have bet.

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