Poor fold?

[Hartlin]

20 hands deep into the game.. villain has been pretty tight, he has only played 3 hands so far. What kind of hands would he limp behind a limper and then reraise me with? Only two were KK or AA, which I'm huge dogs to and can get myself into a ton of trouble IF I hit a flop, as he might have pulled a set on me. Discuss please, and tell me your line as well?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($34.65)
UTG ($18.25)
UTG+1 ($20.65)
MP1 ($16.75)
MP2 ($33.60)
Hero ($80.75)
Button ($41.85)
SB ($20.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, K.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.75, 3 folds, MP1 calls $2.25, MP2 raises to $7.5, Hero folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: $13.75

[jackvance]

Good fold imho.

[bigred]

Good fold. OOP and most likely against AA or KK.

[Hartlin]

Actually bigred, I was in position :P In the CO

[bigred]

You're right. Hmmm..am I wrong to say I'd probably call with AKs in this spot?

[Hartlin]

Never, but explain why you'd call, and what you put him on.

[freechus9]

A) You can't put opp on a hand after 20 hands of play
B) Calling and check/folding a missed flop is a good option

[Hartlin]

After I talked to some other people, here are my thoughts (which they said).

He limped AFTER another limper. I am not limping aces nor kings after someone else, as there is only 4 people behind that will raise, making the chances much less likely that someone will raise, and aces and in a lot of trouble if this happens.

I am in the cutoff here, so my range could be quite large, since people are just limping and they know I'll have position on them IF I get called, so I could raise with a large range.

The suggested play would be to put him in for all his money, which I tend to agree with. I'm only a race against QQ or less and I'm in huge trouble vs KK and AA (but these are very unlikely due to what I said earlier).

He may have a weaker ace than me or some decent broadway cards and think I have nothing.

Does anyone agree with this line and villains line (and his play)???

[bigred]

High PP or AK that I'd only want to play against with position. Suited for better implied odds.

[shysti]

Easy fold, I mean what kind of hands limp here then reraise? Stupid do this with anything other than KK or AA

[fjuanl]

is it very common to limp aces after theres a limper in front? generally i thought the sterotype was open limping from ep.

[Hartlin]

Thats my thoughts as well fjuanl. I never did find out what he had, he didn't show

[ensign_lee]

You are not good enough here enough times to see a flop. Just fold. Even if your outs are good, they're probably in other people's hands.

[Miffed22001]

fold, youll find much better spots in thsi game without putting a lot of money in before the flop on little information.

[Greedo017]

Easy fold, I mean what kind of hands limp here then reraise? Stupid do this with anything

[jackvance]

Even if your outs are good, they're probably in other people's hands.

Weird thing to say..

[Renton]

this is a small pocket pair a lot, but not enough to push after he 3bets.

[Galapogos]

Smart fold. But I would be so tempted to push and see him fold preflop.

[dwags222]

Sklansky recomends limping after limpers sometimes w/ aa in nlt&p...maybe it will become the new cool thing to do.

[Miffed22001]

Sklansky recomends limping after limpers sometimes w/ aa in nlt&p...maybe it will become the new cool thing to do.

sklansky was probably talking outta his ass unless you have mr-super-aggro sat on the button.

[EricE]

is it very common to limp aces after theres a limper in front? generally i thought the sterotype was open limping from ep.

It is a recommendation from TAP to do exactly this (on occasion). For exactly this reason too, nobody can put you on AA.