Switching Sites

[upsman29621]

I have been a player on Stars now for over 3 years. I am strongly considering swtiching sites now due to the fact that myself and the "support" on stars had a different opinion about certain players chip dumping while in a mtt sat. I play mostly sngos and was wondering if any of you guys knew of any other sites with 9 player sngos with the same blind structure. I know of absolute and full tilt, but have heard full tilt's blind structure is a little quicker than stars. Any suggestions?

[vqc]

Id just follow the fish over to PP.

[TLR]

FullTilt's blind strucutre is a bit different, blinds go up every 6 minutes, but there are much more levels then stars, so its not that much different.

[bruinblue]

what exactly was this "difference of opinion," just out of curiosity

[upsman29621]

what exactly was this "difference of opinion," just out of curiosity

I was in a wsop sat that ended up paying the top 11 seats. I was 5th in chips with about 26 ppl left. Their were 3 guys at my table chip dumping to a lower stack to whom they seem to know. I mean these guys made it obvious simply by telling the short stack to push after they raised and that they would fold! As most of you know when a trny gets close to the bubble play for most seems to tighten up alot. Anyway, after dumping hand after hand to this guy, he went from the lowest stack to about 8th in chips w/o ever showing a hand! Then this hand came up. I was on the Button with QQ. It is folded to mp who makes a raise, I then re-raise. The largest stack who was doing all of the dumping is in the SB and he re-raises me, the guy he was dumping to was in the BB and he moves all in. The orig raiser folds, I fold, and then the guy doing the dumping folds and the bb takes the pot. I could have called with the QQ, but figured if I did that both would probably call and with QQ against 2 ppl really didn't like my chances. Anyway with all of that chit taking place, I was getting furious. A couple hands later I ended up busting with that same QQ against a JJ and finishing in 13th place when it paid the top 11. As soon as the trny was over i emailed stars support and told them to review the chat and play of the trny b/c their was chip dumping and colluding going on. I also stated that I wanted my buy in as well as my rebuys back for that particular sat. I get an email back from stars stating that not everyone is aware of the the rules of online play and while their play was certainly inappropriate, it was not colluding and that their play did not seem to effect the outcome of the final places paid. They also said that I would not be getting a refund for the buy in or the rebuys for that trny, but they would warn the players about their play. ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME???

[Stripclubjunkie]

what exactly was this "difference of opinion," just out of curiosity

I was in a wsop sat that ended up paying the top 11 seats. I was 5th in chips with about 26 ppl left. Their were 3 guys at my table chip dumping to a lower stack to whom they seem to know. I mean these guys made it obvious simply by telling the short stack to push after they raised and that they would fold! As most of you know when a trny gets close to the bubble play for most seems to tighten up alot. Anyway, after dumping hand after hand to this guy, he went from the lowest stack to about 8th in chips w/o ever showing a hand! Then this hand came up. I was on the Button with QQ. It is folded to mp who makes a raise, I then re-raise. The largest stack who was doing all of the dumping is in the SB and he re-raises me, the guy he was dumping to was in the BB and he moves all in. The orig raiser folds, I fold, and then the guy doing the dumping folds and the bb takes the pot. I could have called with the QQ, but figured if I did that both would probably call and with QQ against 2 ppl really didn't like my chances. Anyway with all of that chit taking place, I was getting furious. A couple hands later I ended up busting with that same QQ against a JJ and finishing in 13th place when it paid the top 11. As soon as the trny was over i emailed stars support and told them to review the chat and play of the trny b/c their was chip dumping and colluding going on. I also stated that I wanted my buy in as well as my rebuys back for that particular sat. I get an email back from stars stating that not everyone is aware of the the rules of online play and while their play was certainly inappropriate, it was not colluding and that their play did not seem to effect the outcome of the final places paid. They also said that I would not be getting a refund for the buy in or the rebuys for that trny, but they would warn the players about their play. ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME???

Lame if true...

[upsman29621]

VERY TRUE.. I have sent another email to support to let them know that I pretty much think that they have lost their mind if they think that the play of these guys had no bearing on the outcome of this trny. I asked them to have a supervisor or at least a few other ppl to review the chat and play in this to get another opinion. I received an email this morning stating that the play by those guys was currently under investigation again by a (supervisor) this time and that I would be notified once they have reached a decision. I have been a player on stars for over 3 years now and would really hate go to another site b/c of all of this. Its not really even about the money, it's really just the principle of the matter. Hope to hear back from them sometime today. I will let ya guys know the final verdict.

[upsman29621]

I finally received an email from poker stars support today. I was refunded my entry fee and rebuys in full for the play of those players. They have also been warned about colluding and told if caught doing so again they would be kicked off of stars. It took about 4 days and another email letting them know that I disagreed with their first response, but they finally got it right. I'm glad that they finally made this situation right b/c I wasn't really crazy about switching sites, but was willing to do so if nothing was done about the play of those guys.