$200+$16 (Full Tilt) Bubble, Muck QQ????? WTFLOLZ

[WildBobAA]

Full Tilt Poker Game #820693961: $200 + $16 Sit & Go (5452222), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:53:05 ET - 2006/07/22
Seat 1: Keith Sexton (4,350)
Seat 6: rimmer27 (740)
Seat 7: JTpink (5,350)
Seat 9: WildBobAA (3,060)
JTpink posts the small blind of 80
WildBobAA posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WildBobAA [Qs Qh]
Keith Sexton raises to 400
rimmer27 raises to 740, and is all in
JTpink raises to 1,500
Me = ???

Ok, the table had been playing pretty tight. Keith was raising the button a lot because of this, so I wasn't too worried about him or the shortstack. JTPink was by far the most agressive player at the table and had basically donked his way to a big stack. I think he was one of those players who saw a pro registered in an SnG and decided to play just because of this. He's isolating but I think his range is pretty wide. I suspect this is a fold but I'm interested to hear you guy's thoughts.

[Ravageur]

You really think this is that standard of a fold? I can think of a lot of hands that an agressive player 4-handed makes that play with, and you're crushing almost all of them. 4-handed I usually payoff KK, AA and if your read is correct (that he's donkish and over-agressive) then I think this is a standard push if anything.

Sexton's raise means nothing, and so does the shorties...so shouldn't you be looking at this hand as though it's basically heads-up?

Maybe i'm way off base here and this is indeed a good fold. Just not so convinced it's an easy one.

[Genitruc]

insta-push.

[TLR]

Tough decisions, 3 raises in front of you...

However given the fact that we can ignore the short stack push, I think calling is also a valid option.
If Saxon is stealing he will fold, and you can reevaulate after the flop

[GatorJH]

If you push, JTPink may be inclined to call getting almost 4 to 1 on the entire pot and over 2 to 1 on the side pot (if my math is correct). Now you are in a hand against 2 opponents are are just over 50% to win (based on the range below, with hand 2 being the shortstack). I think a call here may be the best line, but the only problem there is if Sexton pushes you now have another tough decision to make.

This is a tough one for me so I would be VERY interested to hear other opinions.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

141,565,990,104 games 261.157 secs 542,072,355 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 56.5643 % 56.18% 00.38% { QhQs }
Hand 2: 22.1611 % 21.59% 00.57% { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo, T9o, 98o, 87o }
Hand 3: 21.2746 % 20.66% 00.61% { 22+, A8s+, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, A8o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo, T9o, 98o, 87o }


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[nogenius]

I'd push here, you have to lose both to the shortstack and JTPink to bubble out.

I'd probably fold JJ here.

[bode]

push

[GatorJH]

I'd push here, you have to lose both to the shortstack and JTPink to bubble out.

Good Point, however even if you push and lose to both you still finish 3rd due to stack sizes prior to this hand.

[Genitruc]

I'd push here, you have to lose both to the shortstack and JTPink to bubble out.

Good Point, however even if you push and lose to both you still finish 3rd due to stack sizes prior to this hand.

assuming shorty doesn t win and JTPink doesn't beat you when his KK gets sucked out on by shorty's A4o

I still think it's a no-brainer push.

[Alibi]

I'd fold this without much hesitation. No need to tangle with the big stack if you don't need to just yet.

[WildBobAA]

Who wants some results? I didn't make this thread b/c I lost, my timebank ran down to literally 1 second before I called and I was quite pleased. I still got 3rd oh well.

FullTiltPoker Game #820693961: $200 + $16 Sit & Go (5452222), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:53:05 ET - 2006/07/22
Seat 1: Keith Sexton (4,350)
Seat 6: rimmer27 (740)
Seat 7: JTpink (5,350)
Seat 9: WildBobAA (3,060)
JTpink posts the small blind of 80
WildBobAA posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WildBobAA [Qs Qh]
Keith Sexton raises to 400
rimmer27 raises to 740, and is all in
JTpink raises to 1,500
WildBobAA has 15 seconds left to act
WildBobAA: wow
rimmer27: triple me up
rimmer27: lets go
WildBobAA raises to 3,060, and is all in
Keith Sexton folds
JTpink calls 1,560
WildBobAA shows [Qs Qh]
rimmer27 shows [2h Ah]
JTpink shows [Jd Js]
*** FLOP *** [Th Kc Jh]
*** TURN *** [Th Kc Jh] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [Th Kc Jh 3s] [3d]
WildBobAA shows two pair, Queens and Threes
JTpink shows a full house, Jacks full of Threes
JTpink wins the side pot (4,640) with a full house, Jacks full of Threes
rimmer27 shows a pair of Threes
JTpink wins the main pot (2,620) with a full house, Jacks full of Threes
rimmer27 stands up
WildBobAA stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,260 Main pot 2,620. Side pot 4,640. | Rake 0
Board: [Th Kc Jh 3s 3d]
Seat 1: Keith Sexton folded before the Flop
Seat 6: rimmer27 (button) showed [2h Ah] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 7: JTpink (small blind) showed [Jd Js] and won (7,260) with a full house, Jacks full of Threes
Seat 9: WildBobAA (big blind) showed [Qs Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Threes

[Laeelin]

you have to lose both to the shortstack and JTPink to bubble out.

I push for the same reason.

I fold if loseing to one bubbles me.