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  1. #1

    Default Too many 3rd and 4th places. Part II - hand comments pls.

    Hello,

    I hope ive done everything right here with the hand converter. Anyway I would really really appreciate some thought on my play here - i feel ive got room for quite alot of improvement.


    1)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP2 (t1584)
    Hero (t2780)
    Button (t2700)
    SB (t2080)
    BB (t2115)
    UTG (t1020)
    MP1 (t1221)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T, T.
    3 folds, Hero raises to t300, Button calls t300, 2 folds.

    Flop: (t750) Q, K, 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets t300, Button raises to t900, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t1950

    villain pretty tight hasnt call many raises



    2)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO (t1934)
    Hero (t1730)
    SB (t3225)
    BB (t1380)
    UTG (t3605)
    MP1 (t520)
    MP2 (t1106)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K.
    3 folds, CO raises to t400, Hero raises to t1730, 2 folds, CO folds.

    Final Pot: t2355

    Villain has been somewhat tight but have raised alot in LP



    3)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero (t1880)
    Button (t2050)
    SB (t1980)
    BB (t7590)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6, 6.
    Hero raises to t525, 1 fold, SB raises to t1980, 1 fold, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t2555

    Villain has been tight - 2nd time raising




    4)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB (t4365)
    Hero (t2870)
    UTG (t3490)
    Button (t2775)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T, Q.
    2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

    Flop: (t300) 7, T, 7 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t150, SB raises to t450, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t900

    Villain has been a bit loose




    5)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG (t4665)
    Hero (t2470)
    SB (t3590)
    BB (t2775)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 7.
    UTG calls t200, Hero calls t200, 1 fold, BB checks.

    Flop: (t700) 6, 2, 6 (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t500, BB folds, UTG calls t500.

    Turn: (t1700) 4 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks.

    River: (t1700) 5 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks.

    Final Pot: t1700




    6)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero (t1280)
    BB (t2980)
    UTG (t1580)
    UTG+1 (t230)
    MP1 (t1220)
    MP2 (t1740)
    CO (t1470)
    Button (t3000)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, Q.
    UTG calls t20, 3 folds, CO calls t20, Button calls t20, Hero raises to t100, 1 fold, UTG folds, CO folds, Button calls t80.

    Flop: (t260) 8, 3, 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets t80, Button calls t80.

    Turn: (t420) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets t60, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t480





    7)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero (t3710)
    BB (t4965)
    UTG (t935)
    MP (t2100)
    CO (t350)
    Button (t1440)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, K.
    4 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t200) 7, 6, Q (2 players)
    Hero bets t100, BB calls t100.

    Turn: (t400) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets t200, Hero calls t200.

    River: (t800) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets t600, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t1400

    Villain has been abit loose but just a little




    8)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 (t2370)
    MP2 (t1430)
    CO (t2400)
    Button (t1460)
    SB (t1420)
    BB (t1460)
    Hero (t1500)
    UTG+1 (t1460)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K.
    Hero raises to t80, 1 fold, MP1 calls t80, 2 folds, Button calls t80, SB raises to t1430, 1 fold, Hero folds, MP1 folds, Button folds.

    Final Pot: t1690





    9)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero (t1255)
    CO (t1575)
    Button (t3540)
    SB (t1640)
    BB (t2945)
    UTG (t2545)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A, Q.
    1 fold, Hero raises to t150, 1 fold, Button raises to t250, 1 fold, BB calls t200, Hero folds.

    Flop: (t675) K, A, T (2 players)
    BB checks, Button bets t300, BB calls t300.

    Turn: (t1275) 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Button bets t600, BB folds.

    Final Pot: t1875

    Ace has been pretty tight

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    Whats your thoughts?

    Best regards
    David
  2. #2
    1. Your continuation bets are too weak, bet 2/3 or 3/4 pot around that...
    2. If you have less than 10x the BB, any bet preflop is a push.
    3. You're playing a little bit weak tight, loosen up a bit.

    Overall your play seems relatively good.
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  3. #3
    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , K .
    Hero raises to t80, 1 fold, MP1 calls t80, 2 folds, Button calls t80, SB raises to t1430, 1 fold, Hero folds, MP1 folds, Button folds.
    Why not call here with AK?
  4. #4
    Don't call there with AK, you are a race at best, if not dominated. Your M is god knows how big, you gotta let this go, no need to race... unless you want to...
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Hartlin
    Don't call there with AK, you are a race at best, if not dominated. Your M is god knows how big, you gotta let this go, no need to race... unless you want to...
    very interesting i think. I had a hard time letting it go (i normally call here). more opinions on this?
  6. #6
    I think the fold here w/ AK is proper. There's a chance you're way ahead, but more likely you're in a coin flip or dominated. It's too early to commit this many chips to AKos. If it were suited....maybe.
  7. #7
    Hand 4) I think a riase is in order here. QTs is ahead of most hands that the SB would have completed with. I also reraise on the flop then re-evaluate on the turn if called. Your read said that opp was loose, this smells like a bluff to me.

    Hand 6) This fold is REALLY weak. You folded to a bet that gave you 8:1 on your money with 2 overs? That's a required call with any 2 cards. Considering the lack of strength of the opps bet I would have raised to 250. Considering the action, he has a weak PP or two overs that probably aren't as good as ours.
  8. #8
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    I'm not that excited about raising AK in the first couple levels in early position. Also, I would limp or fold AQ during the first couple levels as well, especially not raising limpers. Remember, you're about 30% to make a pair on the flop. Generally the limpers will call, so you end up having a decent pot with Ace high a lot of the time.
  9. #9
    1 - continuation bet is too weak. make it about 450. raising 300 wasn't the worst play though since you have to vary your play.
    2 - i like this play. taking down the pot right now is good for you. i don't like seeing a flop here.
    3 - i don't like this fold at all. take this hand all the way. allin! pot odds are huge. it's a must call
    4 - your bet is way too weak here. you should be betting way more and you shouldn't fold the hand either.
    5 - be more aggressive preflop - go for a steal. good bet on the flop. but should then be betting on the turn/river.
    6 - way too weak. show more strength. bigger cont. bets - then if you get raised you can fold
    7 - your way to weak. also, consider going for a steal preflop or show strength and then bet enough on the flop to make him fold.
    8 - interesting hand. maybe you should call but i'll go with the fold. if he has pockets it's a 50-50. if he has anything else you're ahead (except KK and AA). this is probably a good fold, but i'm not completely sure about it.
    9 - discusting fold. you can call this with 54o. you're getting 7 to 1 on the hand. see a flop! not to mention the fact that you have a very good hand and the table is short handed!


    When you're shorthanded you have to be more aggressive. i can't believe the folds you're making. seriously, you really, really have to loosen up when the table gets short handed.

    you seem too scared to me. i can see why you're finishing 3rd/4th a lot. i finish 4th a lot too but barely ever finish 3rd. i'm always in the top 2 when i'm ITM and i finish first a lot more than i finish 2nd. the reason for this is because i'm more aggressive. (i'm not a pro and this comment sounds a bit arrogant - sorry).

    consider my advice. try to loosen up your game a lot when you get towards the end. go for a lot of steals. he who dares wins. try it a few times and you'll see how much your results improve. this is the number 1 secret to doing well in Sngs i think.
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Hartlin
    Don't call there with AK, you are a race at best, if not dominated. Your M is god knows how big, you gotta let this go, no need to race... unless you want to...
    it's not a race at best. it's more like a race at worst. the chances that he has AA are very low. the chances that he has KK are also very low, but then you do have a giid chance of winning the hand.

    but i agree - fold. in a cash game this is a call everytime tho. unless you have reads
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by pokerroomace
    Quote Originally Posted by Hartlin
    Don't call there with AK, you are a race at best, if not dominated. Your M is god knows how big, you gotta let this go, no need to race... unless you want to...
    it's not a race at best. it's more like a race at worst. the chances that he has AA are very low. the chances that he has KK are also very low, but then you do have a giid chance of winning the hand.

    but i agree - fold. in a cash game this is a call everytime tho. unless you have reads
    i partway agree here. There was a raise to 80 and then a call, and then a repop up to 430 or something. Looks like a standard squeezeplay to me which would be made by TT-JJ and AQ+. I like a push here with AK equally as well as the fold. I would definately not just call here though.

    As for the cash game, why would you call a raise, call reraise to 21x the bb? Id let this go in a cash game much more so than in a sng. In a sng you only have so much time to collect chips before the blinds get to you than in a cashgame. Why would you risk a 50-50 in a cashgame for 1/4-1/3 yoru stack?
  12. #12
    1) bad flop for you. Either c-bet stronger or check/fold.

    2)fine

    3)gamble, you are committed (sucks if you're dominated). I would consider folding low pp's UTG (and push if I am low)

    4)push

    5)fine

    6)weak and weaker

    7)fold turn

    8)calling is an option here

    9)ok, probably AK, AA, KK, QQ
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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by dsmrolla06
    Quote Originally Posted by pokerroomace
    Quote Originally Posted by Hartlin
    Don't call there with AK, you are a race at best, if not dominated. Your M is god knows how big, you gotta let this go, no need to race... unless you want to...
    it's not a race at best. it's more like a race at worst. the chances that he has AA are very low. the chances that he has KK are also very low, but then you do have a giid chance of winning the hand.

    but i agree - fold. in a cash game this is a call everytime tho. unless you have reads
    i partway agree here. There was a raise to 80 and then a call, and then a repop up to 430 or something. Looks like a standard squeezeplay to me which would be made by TT-JJ and AQ+. I like a push here with AK equally as well as the fold. I would definately not just call here though.

    As for the cash game, why would you call a raise, call reraise to 21x the bb? Id let this go in a cash game much more so than in a sng. In a sng you only have so much time to collect chips before the blinds get to you than in a cashgame. Why would you risk a 50-50 in a cashgame for 1/4-1/3 yoru stack?
    does it really matter what the amount your gamnling is? the question is: if you made this same play everytime would you make a profit or a loss?

    against an underpair you're a slight underdog
    against a Ax or Kx hand you're quite a strong favourite
    against anything lower you're also a relatively strong favourite
    against KK you're quite far behind. and against AA your miles behind

    in this situation you're getting slightly better than evens and it is clear that if you went allin again and again and again that in the long run you'd make money
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  14. #14
    Thanks alot for the input. In means the world to me.

    I have some more hands which i would really like to hear more of your opinions about - again thanks ALOT!


    1)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO (t3870)
    Button (t1340)
    SB (t970)
    BB (t1470)
    UTG (t1900)
    UTG+1 (t1680)
    Hero (t1470)
    MP2 (t800)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J, J.
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t40, Hero raises to t100, MP2 calls t100, 4 folds, UTG+1 folds.

    Flop: (t270) 6, Q, 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets t100, MP2 raises to t700, Hero calls t600.

    Turn: (t1670) 6 (2 players)

    River: (t1670) Q (2 players)

    Final Pot: t1670






    2)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP (t3555)
    CO (t750)
    Button (t1980)
    SB (t1870)
    BB (t3070)
    Hero (t2275)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, J.
    5 folds.

    Final Pot: t150


    I know i shouldnt be playing AJ UTG in a 8-9 player table but what about here? Is this one of the situations where
    im supposed to loosen up more because of the smaller number of players?







    3)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP2 (t1385)
    CO (t2965)
    Button (t1860)
    SB (t1440)
    Hero (t1425)
    UTG (t1440)
    UTG+1 (t1270)
    MP1 (t1715)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t1385, 4 folds, UTG+1 folds.

    Final Pot: t1460
    Villains first play at all - no way I can call this is there?






    4)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP2 (t1385)
    CO (t2840)
    Button (t395)
    SB (t1425)
    Hero (t1670)
    UTG (t2505)
    UTG+1 (t1640)
    MP1 (t1640)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 6.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls t50, 1 fold, MP2 calls t50, 3 folds, Hero checks.

    Flop: (t175) 8, 9, 5 (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t100, MP2 calls t100, Hero calls t100.

    Turn: (t475) 7 (3 players)
    Hero bets t400, UTG+1 raises to t1400, MP2 calls t1235 (All-In), Hero folds.

    River: (t3510) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t3510
    Hmmm weak fold here?





    5)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t1480)
    SB (t3530)
    BB (t2475)
    Hero (t2020)
    MP (t2480)
    CO (t1515)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K.
    Hero raises to t2020, 2 folds, Button calls t1480 (All-In), 2 folds.

    Flop: (t3800) 2, T, 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Turn: (t3800) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: (t3800) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t3800
    Table has been very tight - How to play this from UTG with 10x BB?





    6)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    BB (t2045)
    UTG (t4580)
    MP (t1925)
    Hero (t1835)
    SB (t3115)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 5.
    2 folds, Hero raises to t1810, 1 fold, BB calls t1610.

    Flop: (t3520) T, 8, 6 (2 players)

    Turn: (t3520) T (2 players)

    River: (t3520) Q (2 players)

    Final Pot: t3520
    Table has been very tight - one of those standard pushes im trying to get used to?







    7)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero (t1420)
    UTG (t4580)
    MP1 (t2635)
    MP2 (t1625)
    CO (t1025)
    Button (t1315)
    SB (t900)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, 7.
    UTG calls t30, 4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

    Flop: (t90) 3, Q, 7 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t90, UTG folds, SB calls t90.

    Turn: (t270) T (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t150, SB calls t150.

    River: (t570) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets t630 (All-In), Hero calls t630.

    Final Pot: t1830

    Flush card came - do I call here?





    8)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t3410)
    SB (t2500)
    BB (t5990)
    Hero (t1600)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3, 3.
    Hero raises to t1600, 2 folds, BB calls t1400.

    Flop: (t3300) J, Q, 7 (2 players)

    Turn: (t3300) 2 (2 players)

    River: (t3300) T (2 players)

    Final Pot: t3300

    Villain has been loose calling alot of raises - I actually expected a call here - does that change the push?







    9)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG (t1500)
    UTG+1 (t1500)
    MP1 (t1440)
    MP2 (t1790)
    MP3 (t1330)
    CO (t1640)
    Button (t1400)
    SB (t1530)
    Hero (t1370)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7.
    2 folds, MP1 raises to t60, 3 folds, Button calls t60, SB calls t50, 1 fold.

    Flop: (t200) 5, T, 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, MP1 bets t100, Button calls t100, SB calls t100.

    Turn: (t500) 6 (3 players)
    SB bets t220, MP1 folds, Button folds.

    Final Pot: t720

    Implied odds are huge here.





    10)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t1350)
    SB (t3550)
    BB (t2660)
    UTG (t4715)
    Hero (t1225)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A, 9.
    UTG calls t50, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (t150) 6, 9, T (3 players)
    SB checks, BB bets t100, UTG calls t100, SB folds.

    Turn: (t350) A (2 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets t150, BB folds.

    Final Pot: t500
    Too tight here? Should i start loosening up around here and play crap like A9 with a limper in front of me?






    11)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP2 (t1465)
    CO (t1235)
    Button (t2970)
    Hero (t1410)
    BB (t1100)
    UTG (t1750)
    UTG+1 (t1360)
    MP1 (t2210)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K.
    2 folds, MP1 calls t30, 2 folds, Button raises to t120, Hero raises to t1410, BB calls t1070 (All-In), MP1 folds, Button calls t1290.

    Flop: (t3950) K, 6, 5 (3 players, 1 all-in)

    Turn: (t3950) T (3 players, 1 all-in)

    River: (t3950) T (3 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t3950
    Bellagie has been a maniac rasing 10 out of 20 hands







    12)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero (t9680)
    BB (t1540)
    Button (t2280)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, A.
    1 fold, Hero raises to t9755, 1 fold.

    Final Pot: t9905

    How to play against the small stack here with such a huge stack?





    13)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t2770)
    SB (t3740)
    Hero (t1420)
    UTG (t5570)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 6.
    2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

    Flop: (t200) A, 9, 7 (2 players)
    SB bets t200, Hero raises to t500, SB calls t300.

    Turn: (t1200) 3 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t600, SB folds.

    Final Pot: t1800
    Villain raised all Ace-x hands so i was pretty sure he didnt have Ace.






    14)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t1220)
    SB (t4265)
    Hero (t1820)
    UTG (t6195)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, A.
    2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to t750, SB folds.

    Final Pot: t900
    Villain has called quite a few raises





    15)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    BB (t1390)
    UTG (t3795)
    Hero (t1370)
    SB (t6945)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 2, A.
    1 fold, Hero raises to t500, 2 folds.

    Final Pot: t800
    Villain 1 alitle loose but seems to have respect for me, villain 2 tight






    16)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO (t2405)
    Button (t860)
    Hero (t1572)
    BB (t3968)
    UTG (t1865)
    MP (t2830)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, A.
    4 folds, Hero raises to t1572, BB calls t1422.

    Flop: (t3144) A, 3, 6 (2 players)

    Turn: (t3144) 9 (2 players)

    River: (t3144) T (2 players)

    Final Pot: t3144
    villain has been tight - suprised he called with 66






    17)
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB (t2405)
    BB (t2605)
    UTG (t4875)
    Hero (t3615)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with T, T.
    1 fold, Hero raises to t600, 1 fold, BB calls t400.

    Flop: (t1300) Q, 6, 8 (2 players)
    BB bets t800, Hero raises to t3015, BB calls t1205 (All-In).

    Turn: (t6320) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: (t6320) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t6320
    Villain seems to be a solid player but i have been getting great hands for a while and been raising alot
  15. #15
    You will probably get a better response if you post these hands as a separate topic. Anyway, here are my thoughts:

    1. OOP, I'm tempted to just flat call the preflop minraise rather than re-raising. If you want to re-raise I would make it at least 150 to go. As played, I would fold to the large flop raise, yes sometimes you see shit like A8 but not worth the risk this early IMO.

    2. At 50/100 blinds this can go either way. I might also consider raising to 250 and either taking the blinds down or playing a flop. If blinds were 75/150 I would definitely not be folding this, if blinds were 25/50 I would instafold.

    3. Assuming this is a low buy-in, I would call. You are only fearing KK/AA. Sure it was his first play but low limit players pull this sort of move with all sorts of rubbish (low-medium pocket pairs, AJ-AK, etc.) Plus since blinds are 15/30 not that many hands have passed.

    4. With the flush draw out there, don't give a free card. I would lead out to build a pot since you flopped the nuts. If you want to check, this should be with the intention of check-raise (to about 400 should do it) not check-calling. As played I think the turn fold is bad. Only T6 or JT beats you, you could be up against a set or even A9 here.

    5. Standard, nh.

    6. I think this is OK with your read that the table had been tight. SB and BB's calling range should be pretty tight here.

    7. Bet more on the turn - I would bet close to the full pot again. Make him pay to see his draw. As played, tough spot on the river. Check/call, check/call then lead for all his chips on the river when the flush comes seems to say to me he has you beat.

    8. If your read is that BB (who is also the big stack) is calling a lot of raises I would wait for a better spot. With 8x BB you are not yet totally desperate, from UTG I would fold this.

    9. From the BB I would flat call the raise and hope to hit a set, particularly because you close off the action (ie. nobody can re-raise). I read somewhere that it is fine to call up to 7% of your stack with PPs to try to hit a set, this gives you the right implied odds.

    10. I think the fold is fine.

    11. I take it Bellagie is the button? If so, this is fine, I would expect to be ahead of his/her range pretty often since your read is that he/she is a maniac.

    12. Standard, you have the big stack, use it! The alternative would be to make a standard raise but if BB pushes over you have to call so you might as well just get it in yourself.

    13. Marginal. What hands would villain lead for the full pot with? I suppose with your read that villain would have raised preflop with an A I don't hate it. The only thing is - why not just push the turn? You left yourself with like 220 behind.

    14. Standard, you could also push since you would have a hard time folding if SB put you all in.

    15. Just open push. You have <7x BB, standard raising is bad here. What do you do if SB or BB push over?

    16. Standard push. The alternative would have been to raise to 400 and see what comes on the flop but the result would have been the same.

    17. Tough spot on the flop. BB flat called your PF raise then led for 40% of his remaining stack on the flop. Unless he's a complete idiot he isn't folding here, and whilst that flop isn't bad for your TT his big flop lead would suggest to me that he's got a Q or a set.
  16. #16
    Awesome Taipan168!

    1) I dont understand why you wanna flat call here and attract even more players into the pot.

    3) Wow you really call here? Im fearing AA, KK and also AK since i dont wanna take a coinflip this early. I dont see many more hands he would push with. Maybe JJ or AQ but i doubt it. Very interesting.

    5) But why not bet out with the standard 3x raise?

    8)But what is a better spot here? A higher PP?

    11) Yea Bellagie was the button

    15)Dont know what I was thinking

    16)So you are pushing here 100% ?

    I didnt think it would be ok to post the hands in seperate threads - but it doesnt matter?
    Once again thanks Taipan for the input its great...
  17. #17
    No worries, hope it helped! Also, feel free to start separate threads, we're a friendly bunch here

    Quote Originally Posted by anarchoi
    1) I dont understand why you wanna flat call here and attract even more players into the pot.
    Early in the tourney with a preflop raise, I'm playing JJ for a set or all unders flop. In that case it doesn't really matter if 4 players see the flop. I don't hate raising here but you have to raise more if you want to raise, 100 is not enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by anarchoi
    3) Wow you really call here? Im fearing AA, KK and also AK since i dont wanna take a coinflip this early. I dont see many more hands he would push with. Maybe JJ or AQ but i doubt it. Very interesting.
    Absolutely I call - at low buyins you'll see 66, ATs, AQo, AJ, sometimes KQ/KJ. There would have to be more action than this before I'm laying down QQ preflop in a low buyin SNG. Low buyin players rarely push all-in with AA/KK, they're much more likely to try to slowplay or limp-reraise. That said, I occasionally push AI with AA/KK knowing that people are using this logic!

    Quote Originally Posted by anarchoi
    5) But why not bet out with the standard 3x raise?
    You are not folding this hand if somebody pushes over, so with 10x BB just get it all in yourself. If everybody folds you pick up 300 chips, that's a 15% addition to your stack.

    Quote Originally Posted by anarchoi
    8)But what is a better spot here? A higher PP?
    You don't have much fold equity here. I ran this through SNGPT and assuming your opps call with 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+ (which is quite tight for low buyins), this is -0.6% EV. If the big stack calls with 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs it is -0.9% EV. According to SNGPT you need 77+,AJo+,ATs+ for this to be a +EV push here.

    Quote Originally Posted by anarchoi
    16)So you are pushing here 100% ?
    Depends on how loose BB's calling range is likely to be. With your read that he has been tight (say this means he calls with 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+), you should push any two cards.
  18. #18
    Thanks Taipan.

    Still I cant agree with the QQ hand
    Is it just because its so early in the tourney that I cant assume that he's a rock even though he didnt play a hand untill this point?

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