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    Default PS, $4-180, JJ facing 2 all-ins on rag flop

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP3 (t2240)
    CO (t5920)
    Button (t7515)
    SB (t1575)
    BB (t2750)
    UTG (t3715)
    Hero (t2500)
    MP1 (t3180)
    MP2 (t3370)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J.
    UTG raises to t300, Hero calls t300, 5 folds, SB calls t250, 1 fold.

    Flop: (t1000) 5, 8, 3 (3 players)
    SB bets t1275 (All-In), UTG calls t1275, Hero ???

    I call pre-flop because AK, AQ are at least in his range (with 99+?). Another caller and flopped rags, if it's QQ+, nh gg. But, SB insta-pushes, BB-insta calls. They both have pp, IMO.

    I loose to: AA, KK, QQ, 88, 55, 33
    I beat: TT, 99, 77, 66, (unlikely 44, 22)

    Easy fold?
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    yeah, pretty easy.
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    Board: 5h 8c 3s
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 30.1676 % 29.34% 00.83% { JcJd }
    Hand 2: 34.9162 % 34.27% 00.65% { 22+ }
    Hand 3: 34.9162 % 34.27% 00.65% { 22+ }

    You are a 2.3 to 1 dog
    Pot odds: 2.78 to 1
    Pot odds if you get all in with UTG: 1.79 to 1

    I'd fold in this spot. Let shortie clash with UTG (who has you covered by the way). If you stay out of it, either SB is out, or UTG gets cut down to about your size. I think you can find a better spot where you can be the aggressor and utilize some FE from your stack. Chalk up the 300 and cut your losses.
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    Hands like this are why I keep a box of stress balls, and squeeky toys by my poker/computer chair. There is really no question. You fold, and unload on a squeeky toy until the hand is over.
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    If you eliminate 22 & 44:
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    Board: 5h 8c 3s 
    
            	equity (%)  	win (%)	tie (%) 
    Hand  1:	22.6236 %  	21.76% 	00.86%      { JcJd }
    Hand  2:	38.6882 %  	37.91% 	00.77%      { 55+, 33 }
    Hand  3:	38.6882 %  	37.91% 	00.77%      { 55+, 33 }
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    Just by reading the title and not looking at the HH i know this is a fold. One of the two DEFINITELY has a set or overpair. I would say tho that one has a set.
    LETS GO CLIPPERS!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterdick
    Just by reading the title and not looking at the HH i know this is a fold. One of the two DEFINITELY has a set or overpair. I would say tho that one has a set.
    77 & 99. I'm still happy with the lay down, at best I figured SB had TT and UTG had QQ/KK.
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    Default Re: PS, $4-180, JJ facing 2 all-ins on rag flop

    Quote Originally Posted by swiggidy
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP3 (t2240)
    CO (t5920)
    Button (t7515)
    SB (t1575)
    BB (t2750)
    UTG (t3715)
    Hero (t2500)
    MP1 (t3180)
    MP2 (t3370)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J.
    UTG raises to t300, Hero calls t300, 5 folds, SB calls t250, 1 fold.

    Flop: (t1000) 5, 8, 3 (3 players)
    SB bets t1275 (All-In), UTG calls t1275, Hero ???

    I call pre-flop because AK, AQ are at least in his range (with 99+?). Another caller and flopped rags, if it's QQ+, nh gg. But, SB insta-pushes, BB-insta calls. They both have pp, IMO.

    I loose to: AA, KK, QQ, 88, 55, 33
    I beat: TT, 99, 77, 66, (unlikely 44, 22)

    Easy fold?
    Where is the reraise preflop?
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    Default Re: PS, $4-180, JJ facing 2 all-ins on rag flop

    Quote Originally Posted by Fimanoid
    Where is the reraise preflop?
    At the time I thought the only raise I could make is a push, which my stack is too big for. Looking at it now I could have raised to 900 and had an almost pot-sized bet on the flop.

    A pre-flop re-re-raise would make me wanna puke.
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    Default Re: PS, $4-180, JJ facing 2 all-ins on rag flop

    Quote Originally Posted by swiggidy
    Quote Originally Posted by Fimanoid
    Where is the reraise preflop?
    At the time I thought the only raise I could make is a push, which my stack is too big for. Looking at it now I could have raised to 900 and had an almost pot-sized bet on the flop.

    A pre-flop re-re-raise would make me wanna puke.
    I still would reraise there with JJ. Most likely you're gonna go HU with the original raiser. I think it's a clear push.
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    450 on the table is 20% of my stack, which makes me think pushing is good.

    This game is such that I felt I was 90% to get called by a big Ace or TT+

    If I push I'm essentially risking 2500 for 2600, but have 53.7% equity.

    I guess it is a push. I probably gave too much credit to the UTG raise, forgetting it is a $4 tourney.
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