Advice on folding big pps deep.WWYD.

[ripjohngotti]

$1+$0 (real money), hand #822,388,764
Lucky Dollar Multi Table Tournament, 8 Aug 2006 10:04 AM
View Previous hand for this table.
Seat 1: whizbang2 ($9,712 in chips)
Seat 2: Lexy_lv ($9,300 in chips)
Seat 4: icepicks_val ($11,992 in chips)
Seat 5: RIPJohnGotti [10H,10D] ($16,556 in chips)
Seat 6: tuyhoa71 ($7,549 in chips)
Seat 7: rdbeat ($15,222 in chips)
Seat 8: No Limit JD ($13,103 in chips)
Seat 9: Big Dad D. ($9,276 in chips)
Seat 10: Free.gamer ($13,099 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
whizbang2 posts blind ($400), Lexy_lv posts blind ($800).

PRE-FLOP
icepicks_val folds, RIPJohnGotti bets $2,400, tuyhoa71 bets $7,549 and is all-in, rdbeat folds, No Limit JD folds, Big Dad D. folds, Free.gamer folds, whizbang2 folds, Lexy_lv folds, RIPJohnGotti calls $5,149.

FLOP [board cards AS,9C,4C ]


TURN [board cards AS,9C,4C,7H ]


RIVER [board cards AS,9C,4C,7H,8S ]


SHOWDOWN
tuyhoa71 shows [ AD,AH ]
RIPJohnGotti shows [ 10H,10D ]
tuyhoa71 wins $16,298.


Was getting 2 to 1 on money, he was a tight player. Easy fold? Any advice for folding big pocket pairs deep 99/1010/JJ and even qq?

2 to 1 makes this an easy call?

[chardrian]

Yes that's an easy call - you just got unlucky.

Both you and your opp need really big Ms, and you need a good read on your opp in order to fold hands TT-QQ preflop.

With an M of 6 there, your opp's range included 99-22 there making your call easy.

[ripjohngotti]

You count the sb also? ive heard both.

[chardrian]

M=Your stack/BB+SB+ante

Personally I don't concentrate on M as much as I do number of BBs that I have. Once people are 10xBB or less (which was the case of your opp here) they really should be in push/fold mode.

[ripjohngotti]

You want to avoid big stacks and SS right if you are not the first one making the action.


What about stealing from big stacks in the Sb/BB?

[Sprayed]

You want to avoid big stacks and SS right if you are not the first one making the action.


What about stealing from big stacks in the Sb/BB?

I try to maintain my stack by raising every time I'm on the button or CO when it's folded to me. I will do this with discretion, but sometimes you can't worry about their stack size when you're trying to stay afloat. Medium stacks are better to steal from but beggars can't be choosey. If you hold udder garbage, it’s an easy fold when they come over the top.

[Rondavu]

he was a tight player. Easy fold?

Yes it's an easy fold. It's unlikely for villain to be pushing anything you're ahead of besides AQ or AK, which you're flipping against. This kind of villain calls your raise with 22-99, and probably folds 22-66 sometimes.