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    Default 400nl 20k hands.

    Its been a while since I have done one of these.









    Any thoughts?
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    Attempt to steal blinds: 37%

    wow.
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    wow good or wow bad?
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    very nice Renton
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    Thoughts on EP stats? UTG should be a winner, no? Or is sample size too small?
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    Not going to argue hard for/against anything as you are obviously way way way more skilled than I am. With that out of the way, perhaps you could tighten up a notch in EP?

    Edit; warpe beat me to it, also edited to say nh sir.
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    so another loser utg.
    do tell me why?!?!????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    so another loser utg.
    do tell me why?!?!????
    small sample size for position stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    wow good or wow bad?
    Good if you're actually making money with the last (worst) 10%. Are you?

    UTG loss is just variance.
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    very impressive TAG'ing, sir!

    I love how UTG VP$IP=PFR...very tight.

    Question: How much do you raise AA, KK, QQ? Like 5x-7x or more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_fish
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    wow good or wow bad?
    Good if you're actually making money with the last (worst) 10%. Are you?
    I made a lot from the button, but I can't really know for sure how well my blind stealing goes. Its seems to go fairly well, though.




    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
    very impressive TAG'ing, sir!

    I love how UTG VP$IP=PFR...very tight.

    Question: How much do you raise AA, KK, QQ? Like 5x-7x or more?
    I am not sure what you mean. I open with AA/KK/QQ 100% of the time, and my standard raise is 3.5bb+ 1 per limper.



    Quote Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    so another loser utg.
    do tell me why?!?!????
    small sample size for position stats.

    I don't know. Sample size is small obviously, but I am thinking about maybe pitching 22-55 utg for a while and seeing how that goes.

    But giving up the chance to flop a set seems like a poor trade-off.
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    Your stats EP/MP stats seem pretty similar to each other. Some have suggested tightening up EP, might not be a bad idea.

    How about limping behind on the button with more junk and stealing orphan pots post flop?

    Instead of folding 22-55 utg, maybe alternate randomly between raising and limping utg with it? Re-raises might be putting you in a tough spot with these hands post flop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryToma
    How about limping behind limpers on the button with more junk and stealing orphan pots post flop?
    I do this with as much as I can, but the game is pretty aggressive so there aren't many unraised pots.
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    Renton,

    If you want to see how much you've made blind stealing, then go to "Filters" (located straight across from the Known Starting Hands text), and then under "Chance to Steal Blinds", click "Chance to Steal and Raised."

    Anything positive is great, a 30+BB/100 rate is considered fairly solid.

    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nogenius
    Renton,

    If you want to see how much you've made blind stealing, then go to "Filters" (located straight across from the Known Starting Hands text), and then under "Chance to Steal Blinds", click "Chance to Steal and Raised."

    Anything positive is great, a 30+BB/100 rate is considered fairly solid.

    Hope this helps.

    lol mine is 61ptbb/100

    i own
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    Quote Originally Posted by TerryToma
    How about limping behind limpers on the button with more junk and stealing orphan pots post flop?
    I do this with as much as I can, but the game is pretty aggressive so there aren't many unraised pots.
    Yeah things are much more aggressive up at your level. There are a lot more unraised pots down at 25nl.

    I have stated before I think things are loosening up a lot in online poker this week. College students have a lot of time on their hands right now, and a lot are learning poker for the first time/arent that experienced/rusty. Overall at my limits things were a lot more aggressive preflop today and yesterday during peak hours. There also seemed to be a lot more calling stations. Are you seeing this phenomenon as well?

    So in response I think you may need to occassionally limp/call preflop with small pp's in EP. Players will still pay off your sets with their overpair. But it may cost only 3bb preflop rather than having to call a reraise of 8 bb. Worse yet you are going to be oop all hand. I am also finding that cbets arent as effective in the looser tables. I set off a couple of avalanches of pfr-reraise-reraise-AI today when I raised my small pp's in EP.

    All things you already know, I am just trying to stimulate some growth in your game. It is at a great level, with a solid winrate. But your stats seem to show you are pretty set in your ways. Occasionally switching things up may not be a bad idea.

    One move I have tried in the past, was to limp AKo. Its not something I ever do, but switched it up this one time. I was thinking the table was pretty loose/donkish and I could call someone's pfr in MP that has AQ, or even AJ. Well thats exactly what happened, and I took their stack on the turn when an A hit the flop. What I'm saying is I think its OK to experiment/deviate from your current plan UTG every once in a while. But make sure you are thinking about what and why you are doing it. Any time you are doing extra thinking is going to be +ev. You have seen so many hands in your poker lifetime that your subconscious will fill in a lot. All you have to do is stimulate it with a new scenario, and extra thinking every once in a while.


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    Renton,

    Do you get frustrated if you ever have to play passively? I wonder if there's a slight over-aggression to your game which is great 90% of the time but misses value and opportunities on other occasions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biondino
    Renton,

    Do you get frustrated if you ever have to play passively? I wonder if there's a slight over-aggression to your game which is great 90% of the time but misses value and opportunities on other occasions.
    i adjust

    in an ultra-loose game i am like 14/8

    in an ultra-tight game i am like 22/13
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    Hey Renton, would you mind posting a graph of this sample?
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    haha i love the start of that graph,up about 150 bucks and then you drop 400 or so before you start winning again...ever wonder what would of happened if your aces would have gotten cracked at first and you dropped 150 bucks to start out with...might not be playing today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bantam222
    haha i love the start of that graph,up about 150 bucks and then you drop 400 or so before you start winning again...ever wonder what would of happened if your aces would have gotten cracked at first and you dropped 150 bucks to start out with...might not be playing today.
    that's not his entire poker career
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    my positional stats are looking a little bit like yours (since ive started using your PF strategy..i was 12 /2 ..now im 14/8..and position by position look eerily similiar to your stats .) ....your AF postflop makes me look like a little bitch tho =/.....

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