Midas, I had no complaints. I was trying to offer a solution to FTR and Xianti having concerns about the direction the community forum is heading and it's reflection on this site to new members. I don't think it's a problem at all. I have been involved before yes, I didn't take any offence to anything said towards me. It's the internet, infact I was also flamed on IRC by the same people and ignored it totally. I have no complaints about the commune or what has been said or shown in there. My point was mearly that the line that is crossed is in the eye of the beholder and I don't think strikes or banning should happen from things that are in the community forum because of the wide range of topics, personalities and senses of humour. It has no reflection on FTR and there is no need for a heavy hand in that forum and that forum alone. And so it should just be moved to a less obvious place that may be harder to happen across by the casual or sensitive member/lurker with also a bigger warning in the heading. I think it needs less policing and more freedom for expression without reprecussions effecting our FTR posting. We have lost some good if not great posters in other forums because of things said and done in the commune.