Crazy!!

[ripjohngotti]

Full Tilt Poker Game #964289584: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (6506988), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:59:17 ET - 2006/09/03
Seat 1: Manhat10ite (1,370)
Seat 2: Picnicbasket (1,020)
Seat 3: cain777 (1,415)
Seat 4: JamMaster (1,680)
Seat 5: DoublePlayz2 (1,365)
Seat 6: Hojak (1,305)
Seat 7: JazzOne (1,590)
Seat 8: Ripjohngotti (3,755)
JazzOne posts the small blind of 20
Ripjohngotti posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ripjohngotti [Qc As]
JazzOne: suckout baby
Manhat10ite folds
JazzOne: Give it to me
Picnicbasket raises to 140
cain777 folds
JamMaster folds
DoublePlayz2 folds
Hojak calls 140
JazzOne: jk
JazzOne folds
JazzOne: Quiet table
Ripjohngotti calls 100
*** FLOP *** [8c Js Tc]
Ripjohngotti checks
Picnicbasket checks
Hojak bets 1,165, and is all in
Ripjohngotti

Can you call this, ill tell you what happened when i get some ideas.

absolutely not a call, especially if you have no read. its early in the tourney and you're doing well, no need to put in so many chips on an ace-high staight draw, esp. with two clubs showing and a guy behind you.

[givememyleg]

At most 11 clean outs, and probably in reality it is somewhere in the ballpark of 4-8.. I fold here.

[ripjohngotti]

Ive took some bad beats today and decided to call, it affected my play some, the call preflop with aq was marginal.

[Scuba Chuck]

Ive took some bad beats today and decided to call, it affected my play some, the call preflop with aq was horrible.

FYP. Go learn what reverse implied odds means.

[JeffreyGB]

Ive took some bad beats today and decided to call, it affected my play some, the call preflop with aq was horrible.

FYP. Go learn what reverse implied odds means.

Am I missing something here? Are you both seriously considering AQ = Ax because of a single raise? Chuck, you're worried about playing it for the times that you lose to AK on an Axx flop? Do the times that you win just as much from AJ/AT not counteract this? Hell, since he's playing a $5.50, we can include A9 and even A8 from a generic player. And KQ for that matter, extending the pay-off to include Qxx flops as well. Educate me.

[theDEEPdish]

OMFG at least stop naming your post something that seems interesting

[ripjohngotti]

Your avatar is interesting.

[bode]

i think youre just a post whore who posts standard hands like 20x per day, and then says stupid shit like "your avatar is interesting.

atleast you didnt include the results this time.

and this is a clear fold, btw

[taipan168]

I don't have a problem with people posting hands which may be easy to some of us provided that there is a clear decision point rather than just a bad beat. Not all of OP's hands have been bad beats, some of them have been genuine questions.

The problem with OP is that he just doesn't seem to want to learn. Not sure if he is an attention whore or whatever, but I think he has some serious leaks in his game so I suggested that he post an entire tourney for review. I even offered to review it for him offline for free in case he didn't want to post it. No response.

There have been some posters on this forum who started off posting every freakin' bad beat that happens to them, but then one day they have a "lightbulb moment", start listening and improve. Others cannot or don't want to learn and end up quitting. The choice is up to OP.

[ripjohngotti]

Im just running into varience.

[Da GOAT]

Im just running into varience.

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i dont think so!!!

dont seem to want to learn. havent seen you discurrsive replies in your threads or explain your decision making processes at all. dont know why you are posting.

personally im a sponge if i get interested in anything. just the way i am so i cant understand your learning process.

not reponding to tiapans offer of reviewing a HH (if u havent done so in the meantime) is rude. alot of posters have put time and effort into your posts.

i wont be responding to your posts from now on. i feel im constantly at u to cop on and other posters have sadly wasted their time.

U have pissed of tiapan a bit and he has very high tolerance.

[midas06]

and decided to call

Im just running into varience.

lol

[lolzzz_321]

Are you a gimmick account?

[Random_Hero]

OP's quote is interesting also. Its like its the way all SnG's should be played. Not having a go, just saying.

Who are you telling to stop slowplaying?
Is this the way all sit & go's should be played?

change your quote to "it depends" lol

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[bode]

classic

[Trikflow77]

Ive took some bad beats today and decided to call, it affected my play some, the call preflop with aq was horrible.

FYP. Go learn what reverse implied odds means.

Am I missing something here? Are you both seriously considering AQ = Ax because of a single raise? Chuck, you're worried about playing it for the times that you lose to AK on an Axx flop? Do the times that you win just as much from AJ/AT not counteract this? Hell, since he's playing a $5.50, we can include A9 and even A8 from a generic player. And KQ for that matter, extending the pay-off to include Qxx flops as well. Educate me.

The point that scuba is trying to make is, correct play early in a sng is to fold this hand, being that its going to get you in more trouble than help you chip up(reverse implied odds).....................

[PhilPaine]

Fold. No hesitation.

[lolzzz_321]

You can find a better spot to put your chips in?

[theDEEPdish]

Im just running into varience.

ROFL this is the funniest post i have ever read

lol a 500 buyin downswings a little more than just variance

[Renton]

i don't play sngs, but folding AQ to a single raise when you have 30+ times that in your stack seems absolutely terrible, in or out of position. Where does it stop? Is our calling range QQ+?

[Trikflow77]

i don't play sngs, but folding AQ to a single raise when you have 30+ times that in your stack seems absolutely terrible, in or out of position. Where does it stop? Is our calling range QQ+?

No, out of position in a stars sng i will call in lv 1 with pairs to a 3x raise.....but i wont do it with AJ AQ......the key to crushing sngs is having enough chips to be able to push with enough fold eq when the blinds get high enough. Losing all or 1/4 or more of your stack early hurts your ROI a ton, the more times you get to the bubble the more money you make....if your a good bubble player.....with all that said, AQ isnt worth the risk ealy in a sng.

[PhilPaine]

i don't play sngs, but folding AQ to a single raise when you have 30+ times that in your stack seems absolutely terrible, in or out of position. Where does it stop? Is our calling range QQ+?

Doesn't he have only three times the bet? Besides a gut-shot straight draw the flop totally missed his hand; even contemplating calling here is surely a huge mistake.
And it's only AQo, I wouldn't deem that a 'premium starting hand'.

[TLR]

Preflop call is fine, calling 100 into a 340 pot with AQ is fine

[TLR]

PhilPaine wrote:

Besides a gut-shot straight draw the flop totally missed his hand; even contemplating calling here is surely a huge mistake.

The flop gave him an open ended str8 draw since both the 9 and the K complete a str8 (the 9 gives him a Q high str8 which is not the nuts, and KQ is a possible hand for villian, but the Q high str8 may still be good)

It is still a clear fold