Standard?

[IowaSkinsFan]

My plan for the rest of the hand is if initial raiser reraises (AQ, KK, AA). Check/bomb the turn.

Game #1703796283 - (blinds $0.25/$0.50) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2006/09/10-22:33:41.6 (CST)
Table "Arorangi" (real money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: lampeter ($44.75 in chips)
Seat 2: fender918 ($53.10 in chips)
Seat 3: mellocup ($136.51 in chips)
Seat 4: ShroomVibes ($58.97 in chips)
Seat 5: Zyrix ($33.80 in chips)
Seat 6: edendo ($44.85 in chips)
Seat 7: jktre ($32.36 in chips)
Seat 8: jjp001 ($51.85 in chips)
Seat 9: redgrape ($85.05 in chips)
Seat 10: 4BoysAI ($43.20 in chips)
Zyrix : Post Small Blind ($0.25)
edendo : Post Big Blind ($0.50)
mellocup: Post ($0.75)
Dealing...
Dealt to redgrape [ 2s ]
Dealt to redgrape [ 2c ]
jktre : Call ($0.50)
jjp001 : Call ($0.50)
redgrape: Call ($0.50)
4BoysAI : Raise ($3)
lampeter: Fold
fender918: Fold
mellocup: Call ($2.50)
ShroomVibes: Fold
Zyrix : Fold
edendo : Fold
jktre : Fold
jjp001 : Call ($2.50)
redgrape: Call ($2.50)
*** FLOP *** : [ Qs 2d 7d ]
jjp001 : Check
redgrape: Bet ($6)

[Numbr2intheWorld]

niceeeee

[Renton]

This is a spot where you might consider checking.

Think about it, this is a board that people will call a bet if they hit a piece (like a weak Q, a 7 or a flush draw), but they won't call a bet and a raise cold.

A really excellent scenario is for you to check, then the preflop raiser (who is the very next person to act) throws out 6 bucks, then mellocup calls with Q9, then jjp001 calls with a flush draw, then you stick your stack in and win a huge pot whether they call or not.

[IowaSkinsFan]

ahhhhh, interesting though, I just thought it would be wrong to represent that strongly.

[Renton]

ahhhhh, interesting though, I just thought it would be wrong to represent that strongly.

who cares if its transparent, you are already winning a huge pot, plus it maximizes ev for all the times where no one has much (which is a majority of the time on this board).

I'm not saying whether its the best play or it isn't, just mentioning that this is one of those spots where you can take full advantage of your relative position in the hand.

[IowaSkinsFan]

other comments? I see your point...

[TerryToma]

i like it, its what i do as well. renton's point about relative position is worth noting, however.

a c/r on a board like this is more threatening than your donk bet, IMO.

your donk into someone with AQ will piss them off and often reraise you, so thats a good way to get a stack.

[Miffed22001]

think about if the preflop raisor has hit this flop or not. Then ask if hes calling a c/r all in after c-betting.

[IowaSkinsFan]

opp I'm not sure will reraise with AA, KK or AQ. I could lean in that direction, as he has surely not been passive. So lets say I don't believe he will raise those hands, do you check?

[Numbr2intheWorld]

I just don't think the opp will cont bet, into 3 people, without a piece of this board. A weak lead, i think, forces him to reraise. From there it will be really easy to stack them.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I just don't think the opp will cont bet, into 3 people, without a piece of this board. A weak lead, i think, forces him to reraise. From there it will be really easy to stack them.

But someone presented the situation of him leading out for $8, Qx making the call, and a flush draw making the call. Then me bombing.

I see your point though.

[bode]

i dont mind this line. This will be perceived as a middle/weak Q by someone with AQ/KK-AA, and they will re-raise and you can stack them.

[IowaSkinsFan]

i dont mind this line. This will be perceived as a middle/weak Q by someone with AQ/KK-AA, and they will re-raise and you can stack them.

That was my logic.