AK first hand, how is this line? ($6.50)

[taipan168]

Check behind on the flop or c-bet since nobody showed any interest? Fire again on the turn? I have to fold the river, right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, K.
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, MP1 raises to t40, 2 folds, Hero raises to t140, 3 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t120, MP1 calls t100.

Flop: (t470) 3, Q, T (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets t300, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t300.

Turn: (t1070) 2 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1070) 7 (2 players)
MP1 bets t300, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1370

[FlyingSaucy]

good line. preflop i might not raise though.

[bode]

i dont think i fire a second barrell here. the fold is fine.

nh.

[GatorJH]

This early I am checking pre-flop here, playing top pair very cautiously and letting it go with a missed flop.

I also don't like the semi-bluff C-Bet against 2 opponents this early.

[ripjohngotti]

good line. preflop i might not raise though.

Results orienated

[FlyingSaucy]

Results orienated

Please stop posting. I had legit feedback, you did not.

[ripjohngotti]

Whats your reasoning for not raisking with AK , what conditions need apply and how often do you do this (% wise)

[Jimmy Mac]

good line. preflop i might not raise though.

If we don't reraise MP's daft minraise, we're going to end up with 5 way pot. I like preflop. I might take a freebie on the flop though - these muppets will be calling this flop with any two broadways. They might even call down with ducks, as you obv have AK (They always put u on AK)

[FlyingSaucy]

I feel that i'd rather enter a 5-way pot with AK and hoping to hit a monster early in the sng rather than isolating in a big pot with AK. Particularly because of the donks that will call the raise anyway, and you're likely to go to a big pot on a missed flop. I am not saying this because it happened in this case, I am saying this because it happens in at least 75% of the cases that you raise a minraising donkey early in a sng. Play small ball early is my line.

[Jimmy Mac]

I feel that i'd rather enter a 5-way pot with AK and hoping to hit a monster early in the sng rather than isolating in a big pot with AK.

I totally see your point - you want to protect your stack early. I'm happy to invest 140 chips here though, even if I'm going to be check folding the flop some of the time. I want isolation, and more chips in the pot preflop, so I can happily felt this hand if I hit it. Plus, we will sometimes take it down preflop, or with a cbet on a missed flop.

A five way pot with lots of money behind sucks for AK - it rarely makes better than a pair, and with so many in the pot, we wont have a clue where we're at.

[taipan168]

I feel that i'd rather enter a 5-way pot with AK and hoping to hit a monster early in the sng rather than isolating in a big pot with AK.

I totally see your point - you want to protect your stack early. I'm happy to invest 140 chips here though, even if I'm going to be check folding the flop some of the time. I want isolation, and more chips in the pot preflop, so I can happily felt this hand if I hit it. Plus, we will sometimes take it down preflop, or with a cbet on a missed flop.

A five way pot with lots of money behind sucks for AK - it rarely makes better than a pair, and with so many in the pot, we wont have a clue where we're at.

I think if MP1 had open min-raised I would have been happy to use my position and just flat call. With the two limpers in front of MP1 I really wanted to thin the field here. Plus it sets me up to make a c-bet on a whiffed flop and as Jimmy said, I'm happier playing TPTK for my whole stack if I have cleared out some BB special preflop.

Still sitting on the fence as to whether check behind or c-bet the flop was the better move though. Agree that I don't like c-betting into two opps but given both checked...

[FlyingSaucy]

You are tempting me with your ways, Jimmy. I do understand what you are saying, and I think either way is acceptable. Certainly if you are playing for chip value it is definitely a good play to raise rather than call.

One of the difficult things about calling that I don't think you mentioned is that you need to be able to get away from your tptk when it hits, if a non-donk is going nuts on the post flop betting. Trouble is, in the first hand how do you know if the player is a non-donk?

AK first hand is trouble all around. Are there ever any easy answers with taipans posts?

[Da GOAT]

pf problem is i dont think 140 is enough to discourage the action so far. need to pop to 200-240 here if you wanna isolate. since i dont wanna go broke i call the minraise.

i think this is a flop i check down 2.

[TLR]

I think you have to raise it preflop to thin the field. Cont bet is fine, checking the turn also fine, I may have bet it to represent a flush, but checking is OK.
I am not sure you are behind on the river, but there is no real way of knowing

[saxin]

The flop and the structure of the flop is horrible, i wouldnt even bother c-betting against two opp. Id just check in back hope to hit. I don't know if preflop is worth reraising cuz u are only building a huge pot with AK (the fuckers on low limits cant fold preflop, or at any street for that matter). But it's ok.

So.... check hope to hit something and be careful, not many hands you beat even though you hit an A or K.

[Sprayed]

Don't be weak passive. You have to raise it because of its value. I like the preflop raise and the flop bet. Since he checked on the turn it would be tough for me to shut down and not bet again. But, well played and yes you should fold river. Very weak bet by him on river and may signify a busted draw or he has the flush and wants a call and thinks that this is what he can get from you or you may reraise his weak bet.