2 hands

[jimmy44]

Hi guys,

I'm having trouble with the following hands:

-----Hand 1----
Hero's M = 18.07
PokerStars Game #6316915260: Tournament #32045919, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/09/17 - 08:16:49 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '32045919 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: iwyourgreen (1955 in chips)
Seat 2: old2rusty (1355 in chips)
Seat 3: djalib93 (720 in chips)
Seat 4: clc129 (1960 in chips)
Seat 5: Tucky39 (1515 in chips)
Seat 6: madhatter22 (4655 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (1355 in chips)
Seat 8: JTHcashman (1870 in chips)
Seat 9: LevyCosta (1035 in chips)
djalib93: posts small blind 25
clc129: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qd Qs]
Tucky39: folds
madhatter22: folds
Hero: raises 200 to 250
JTHcashman: folds
LevyCosta: calls 250
iwyourgreen: folds
old2rusty: folds
djalib93: folds
clc129: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [Jd Jh Tc]
clc129: checks
Hero: bets 350
LevyCosta: raises 435 to 785 and is all-in
clc129: folds
Hero: ???

Villain just moved in the table. He definively has a J (I would say 80%-90% of the time) as pot odds alone would justify a call from me ...

What would you do?



-----Hand 2----
Hero's M = 14.67
PokerStars Game #6317114651: Tournament #32045919, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/09/17 - 08:55:59

(ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament

Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '32045919 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: sarah-19850 (4995 in chips)
Seat 2: old2rusty (655 in chips)
Seat 3: Min2WIN (4140 in chips)
Seat 4: clc129 (2690 in chips)
Seat 6: madhatter22 (5020 in chips)
Seat 8: JTHcashman (1965 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (4400 in chips)
Min2WIN: posts small blind 100
clc129: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kh Ah]
madhatter22: calls 200
JTHcashman: folds
Hero: raises 500 to 700
sarah-19850: folds
old2rusty: folds
Min2WIN: folds
clc129: folds
madhatter22: calls 500
*** FLOP *** [Qc Kc 9h]
madhatter22: checks
Hero: bets 800
madhatter22: calls 800
*** TURN *** [Qc Kc 9h] [Jh]
madhatter22: checks
Hero: bets 1400
madhatter22: raises 1400 to 2800
Hero: ????

Most likely holdings: AT? ot KQ/KJ/K9 trying to avoid the flush on the river?

What would you do?


Thanks!

[Sprayed]

First hand I would probably just raise enough to put him all in and save a decision for myself. As played it's a call because of pot odds.

Second hand, you have to bet more on flop and turn. I think that a loose call from UTG preflop would be either pp, scs, or the hands that you listed. However, if he is donkalishous he would slow play a set or two pair. The min raise could mean that you are beat and he has a str8 or he is in panic mode with his set or two pair since the str8 hit and now second flush draw on the board. This is pretty stupid to me if that's the case. The pot odds and your outs would make me shove.

[jimmy44]

First hand I would probably just raise enough to put him all in and save a decision for myself. As played it's a call because of pot odds.

Second hand, you have to bet more on flop and turn. I think that a loose call from UTG preflop would be either pp, scs, or the hands that you listed. However, if he is donkalishous he would slow play a set or two pair. The min raise could mean that you are beat and he has a str8 or he is in panic mode with his set or two pair since the str8 hit and now second flush draw on the board. This is pretty stupid to me if that's the case. The pot odds and your outs would make me shove.

First hand, maybe I should have done it but I fold ... I didn't look at pot odds there, but I had a strong hand and should have followed the pot odds ...

Second hand, the min-raised felt more like he had a straight and was trying to make me put in more chips. Call in flop and min raise in turn. So I've folded this one also ... and I'm not sure if I would shove in this kind of situation in the future ...

[Sprayed]

First hand I would probably just raise enough to put him all in and save a decision for myself. As played it's a call because of pot odds.

Second hand, you have to bet more on flop and turn. I think that a loose call from UTG preflop would be either pp, scs, or the hands that you listed. However, if he is donkalishous he would slow play a set or two pair. The min raise could mean that you are beat and he has a str8 or he is in panic mode with his set or two pair since the str8 hit and now second flush draw on the board. This is pretty stupid to me if that's the case. The pot odds and your outs would make me shove.

First hand, maybe I should have done it but I fold ... I didn't look at pot odds there, but I had a strong hand and should have followed the pot odds ...

Second hand, the min-raised felt more like he had a straight and was trying to make me put in more chips. Call in flop and min raise in turn. So I've folded this one also ... and I'm not sure if I would shove in this kind of situation in the future ...

You're presenting a pattern to your opponents. Bets big pre and then small on the flop. Looks like you missed and observant players will try to take it away from you with aggression. They will make a note on you saying that you will fold to aggression and weak bets means weak. Pay attention to your bets and make sure that they are larger than half the pot. Some here suggest that half pot bets are fine, but I disagree. A lot of the on-line players will not respect your raise unless it is over half and close to full. Also, get familiar with your outs in relation to the pot odds. If your pot odds are better than your odds to hit, it's a call or a push.

[scarface737]

on the first hand hes desperate and is pushing short stack with a draw

on the second hand depending on how the player plays the min raise represents two pair or a ten

[bode]

first hand you should just push the flop and save yourself the decision.

[KoRnholio]

First hand you gotta call. He has something other than Jx a good amount of the time.

Second hand, I call the turn min raise (5:1 odds mang!) to try to get a flush or a ten. You also have position on him so will surely be able to make something if you hit.

[drmcboy]

1) call, this isn't close. the idea that he always has a J is just weird. he makes this play with a T, KQ, maybe even any PP hoping you have AK/AQ. With your stack, you are never folding an undercard flop, I don't care what it looks like.

2) check the turn, you are ahead of pretty much nothing. Call any reasonable bet. I don't see the point to leading or raising, you are never folding a better hand if by some miracle you are still ahead a free card is OK.

@ sprayed - the goal isn't respect, the goal is for them to make a mistake if they call. If calling a HPS bet is a mistake they will make, and calling a PS bet is a mistake they won't make, bet half the pot.

Here, betting half the pot is not nearly enough.

[jimmy44]

first hand you should just push the flop and save yourself the decision.

I agree that the decision would be easier, but your here to win some money and all-in will not win you once in a while ...