Hand history - AK

[pokerroomace]

NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $10+$1 (Real Money)


Seat 1: fotis545 ($3,333 in chips)
Seat 3: THE-LIP ($1,000 in chips)
Seat 6: wasmypoint ($2,157 in chips)
Seat 8: bmarts ($1,215 in chips)
Seat 9: floptraff ($4,170 in chips)
Seat 10: Hero ($3,125 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
fotis545 posts blind ($200), THE-LIP posts blind ($400).

PRE-FLOP
wasmypoint bets $1,000, bmarts folds, floptraff folds, Hero bets $3,125 and is all-in, fotis545 folds, THE-LIP folds, wasmypoint calls $1,157 and is all-in.

FLOP [board cards KH,2S,9S ]


TURN [board cards KH,2S,9S,5C ]


RIVER [board cards KH,2S,9S,5C,10S ]


SHOWDOWN
Hero shows [ KD,AC ]
wasmypoint shows [ 7S,7C ]
Hero wins $968, Hero wins $4,914.



SUMMARY
Dealer: Hero
Pot: $5,882
fotis545, loses $200
THE-LIP, loses $400
wasmypoint, loses $2,157
bmarts, loses $0
floptraff, loses $0
Hero, bets $3,125, collects $5,882, net $2,757
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What do you think? I took a 50-50 near the end. There wasn't much chance the other guy was going to fold my allin.
He could have been playing a pocket pair or a Ax. I'm way behind on AA. And I'm quite far behind against KK. But it seemed unlikely that he had that.
I think he would have min-bet with AA or KK.

[taipan168]

Looks good to me. No other way to play AK IMO.

[dsmrolla06]

I would have done the same thing as well with the blinds that high. Probably make that play against most players without the blinds that high as well.

[taipan168]

The other thing that I'm often amazed to see is that some $11 players will raise half their stack and fold to a push.

[pokerroomace]

The other thing that I'm often amazed to see is that some $11 players will raise half their stack and fold to a push.

Ye. That is true. But with this guy. I thought he'd definitely call because of how he had been playing.

[taipan168]

The other thing that I'm often amazed to see is that some $11 players will raise half their stack and fold to a push.

Ye. That is true. But with this guy. I thought he'd definitely call because of how he had been playing.

BTW it won't always be a flip. The guy could be raising with AT+ or even hands like KQ and KJ. Once you include the Ax and high Kx hands in his range, you are well ahead with AK. Nh.

[pokerroomace]

The other thing that I'm often amazed to see is that some $11 players will raise half their stack and fold to a push.

Ye. That is true. But with this guy. I thought he'd definitely call because of how he had been playing.

BTW it won't always be a flip. The guy could be raising with AT+ or even hands like KQ and KJ. Once you include the Ax and high Kx hands in his range, you are well ahead with AK. Nh.

OK. So do you agree with the play I made?

Aokronology said you never have the right PO to bust yourself. If I would have lost this hand I would have been close to bust. And I was slightly behind. I could have let this hand go and still probably made it ITM. What do you think?

[taipan168]

The other thing that I'm often amazed to see is that some $11 players will raise half their stack and fold to a push.

Ye. That is true. But with this guy. I thought he'd definitely call because of how he had been playing.

BTW it won't always be a flip. The guy could be raising with AT+ or even hands like KQ and KJ. Once you include the Ax and high Kx hands in his range, you are well ahead with AK. Nh.

OK. So do you agree with the play I made?

Yes I absolutely agree with the play you made. Playing it any other way would be horrible.

Aokronology said you never have the right PO to bust yourself. If I would have lost this hand I would have been close to bust. And I was slightly behind. I could have let this hand go and still probably made it ITM. What do you think?

There are only a few situations that I would think of folding AK preflop and this definitely isn't one of them. Although I hate to use the "play fir first vs. play for third" analogy, this is one of those situations where you have to play for first. You have a monster hand that is ahead of his range and you have some fold equity. What's more to wish for?

If you don't believe me, I'll do some analysis. Assume that UTG calls 90% of the time if you push (I've seen it happen so it's not always 100%):
- Fold = 3125 chips worth 20.81% of the prize pool
- Push and win blinds = 4725 chips worth 28.15% of the prize pool
- Push and lose = 968 chips worth 7.94% of the prize pool
- Push and win = 5882 chips worth 32.81% of the prize pool.

If x is the probability of winning, then 20.81 = (28.15 * 10%) + (x * 32.81) + (1-x) * (7.94). Solving for x, you need to be at least 40% against UTG's range to make this a good call. Let's say he's a real tightie and only does this with 66+, AJ+. Using Pokerstove, you are 52% to win against this range so have an easy push:

        	equity (%)  	win (%)	tie (%) 
Hand  1:	47.9780 %  	41.95% 	06.03%      { 66+, AJs+, AJo+ }
Hand  2:	52.0220 %  	45.99% 	06.03%      { AKs, AKo }

Even if he calls 100% of the time, this is still a good push.

[ripjohngotti]

The other thing that I'm often amazed to see is that some $11 players will raise half their stack and fold to a push.

Ye. That is true. But with this guy. I thought he'd definitely call because of how he had been playing.

BTW it won't always be a flip. The guy could be raising with AT+ or even hands like KQ and KJ. Once you include the Ax and high Kx hands in his range, you are well ahead with AK. Nh.

OK. So do you agree with the play I made?

Yes I absolutely agree with the play you made. Playing it any other way would be horrible.

Aokronology said you never have the right PO to bust yourself. If I would have lost this hand I would have been close to bust. And I was slightly behind. I could have let this hand go and still probably made it ITM. What do you think?

There are only a few situations that I would think of folding AK preflop and this definitely isn't one of them. Although I hate to use the "play fir first vs. play for third" analogy, this is one of those situations where you have to play for first. You have a monster hand that is ahead of his range and you have some fold equity. What's more to wish for?

If you don't believe me, I'll do some analysis. Assume that UTG calls 90% of the time if you push (I've seen it happen so it's not always 100%):
- Fold = 3125 chips worth 20.81% of the prize pool
- Push and win blinds = 4725 chips worth 28.15% of the prize pool
- Push and lose = 968 chips worth 7.94% of the prize pool
- Push and win = 5882 chips worth 32.81% of the prize pool.

If x is the probability of winning, then 20.81 = (28.15 * 10%) + (x * 32.81) + (1-x) * (7.94). Solving for x, you need to be at least 40% against UTG's range to make this a good call. Let's say he's a real tightie and only does this with 66+, AJ+. Using Pokerstove, you are 52% to win against this range so have an easy push:

        	equity (%)  	win (%)	tie (%) 
Hand  1:	47.9780 %  	41.95% 	06.03%      { 66+, AJs+, AJo+ }
Hand  2:	52.0220 %  	45.99% 	06.03%      { AKs, AKo }

Even if he calls 100% of the time, this is still a good push.

My head just exploded, after caluculating the poker theorum, you have 5 seconds to act.

[Da GOAT]

My head just exploded, after caluculating the poker theorum, you have 5 seconds to act.

Muppet!!! You play the SNG, review HH, find specific hand, calc ICM, then go hmm interesting, learn from it, applt to next game and similiar situations.

Sadly you dont seem to have that function, ye know learning.

[pokerroomace]

The other thing that I'm often amazed to see is that some $11 players will raise half their stack and fold to a push.

Ye. That is true. But with this guy. I thought he'd definitely call because of how he had been playing.

BTW it won't always be a flip. The guy could be raising with AT+ or even hands like KQ and KJ. Once you include the Ax and high Kx hands in his range, you are well ahead with AK. Nh.

OK. So do you agree with the play I made?

Yes I absolutely agree with the play you made. Playing it any other way would be horrible.

Aokronology said you never have the right PO to bust yourself. If I would have lost this hand I would have been close to bust. And I was slightly behind. I could have let this hand go and still probably made it ITM. What do you think?

There are only a few situations that I would think of folding AK preflop and this definitely isn't one of them. Although I hate to use the "play fir first vs. play for third" analogy, this is one of those situations where you have to play for first. You have a monster hand that is ahead of his range and you have some fold equity. What's more to wish for?

If you don't believe me, I'll do some analysis. Assume that UTG calls 90% of the time if you push (I've seen it happen so it's not always 100%):
- Fold = 3125 chips worth 20.81% of the prize pool
- Push and win blinds = 4725 chips worth 28.15% of the prize pool
- Push and lose = 968 chips worth 7.94% of the prize pool
- Push and win = 5882 chips worth 32.81% of the prize pool.

If x is the probability of winning, then 20.81 = (28.15 * 10%) + (x * 32.81) + (1-x) * (7.94). Solving for x, you need to be at least 40% against UTG's range to make this a good call. Let's say he's a real tightie and only does this with 66+, AJ+. Using Pokerstove, you are 52% to win against this range so have an easy push:

        	equity (%)  	win (%)	tie (%) 
Hand  1:	47.9780 %  	41.95% 	06.03%      { 66+, AJs+, AJo+ }
Hand  2:	52.0220 %  	45.99% 	06.03%      { AKs, AKo }

Even if he calls 100% of the time, this is still a good push.

Very nice post. Thanks for your help