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  1. #1

    Default AK Hand

    Too scared to get agressive on this flop. Villain has showed down some weak hands.. Called all ins with Q 9 , 78 suited.. Kinda donkish.. Likes pushing his somewhat 2nd best hands. How do you play this turn, and if villain checks the river can we throw down something to drive him off his shit hand? Villain will fold ... He knows how... Iam thinking missed FD ... But what do I know... Comments..


    Poker Stars
    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    Blinds: t75/t150
    7 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: t2545
    UTG+1: t2020
    MP1: t1995
    Hero: t1560
    Button: t2125
    SB: t3360
    BB: t1395

    Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is CO with A K
    2 folds, MP1 raises to t300, Hero raises to t685, 3 folds, MP1 calls t385 (pot was t1210).

    Flop: 9 T J (t1595, 2 players)
    MP1 bets t150, Hero calls t150 (pot was t1745).

    Turn: 6 (t1895, 2 players)

    Villain checks... Hero ?? ? ? ? ?


    Results:
    Final pot: t1895
  2. #2
    I'm not sure you can afford to let this one go, conidering how loose villain is. If he was on either a flush or str8 draw, he missed. So if you think he can fold for 800 chips considering he is on one of those draws, push...If the guy is a donk that will call anything, tough call.

    Is pushing preflop that bad?
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    As played up to the turn, push it for sure. a lead out minbet on the flop, and then open check on the turn means the villain is very weak!!

    Some things though - preflop raise it to 900 instead, and then if called, push the rest on the flop. That's the most efficient way to get all your $ in with this monster and still maximize action.
  4. #4
    With your stack at ~10x BB I just shove preflop. If opp folds and you take the blinds uncontested, you added 525 chips or 1/3 to your stack, that's a great outcome.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    With your stack at ~10x BB I just shove preflop. If opp folds and you take the blinds uncontested, you added 525 chips or 1/3 to your stack, that's a great outcome.
    So this level ... if I have 10 X the BB .. J J + AK Push all day everyday?

    Can you give me some insight from postion wise where your pushing these hands? I am not quite sure I am that desperate yet..




    Flying Saucy -, I know that reraise looked weak. I really wanted a call from villian though because he was loose as hell.. I am waiting for him to shove Ace small into a better looking flop for me. Reraise/shove sounds good.
  6. #6

    Default Re: AK Hand

    Quote Originally Posted by fasin8ing
    Too scared to get agressive on this flop. Villain has showed down some weak hands.. Called all ins with Q 9 , 78 suited.. Kinda donkish.. Likes pushing his somewhat 2nd best hands. How do you play this turn, and if villain checks the river can we throw down something to drive him off his shit hand? Villain will fold ... He knows how... Iam thinking missed FD ... But what do I know... Comments..
    Why are you scared? Running bad?

    This is a classic shove preflop. This flop is also a classic shove, unless you have a read otherwise? Count your outs. How much FE do you have? How much PE do you have? What's his range?
  7. #7

    Default Re: AK Hand

    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba Chuck

    Why are you scared? Running bad?
    Naw, I am not playing any hands differently if i were running bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba Chuck
    This is a classic shove preflop. This flop is also a classic shove, unless you have a read otherwise?
    Reads= Villain is loose as hell and it appears that he would call with this range. This may be generous.

    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    184,140 games 0.047 secs 3,917,872 games/sec


    THE FLOP .. Iam ahead...

    Board: 9d Tc Jc
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 52.7227 % 51.04% 01.69% { AhKs }
    Hand 2: 47.2773 % 45.59% 01.69% { 99-22, AJs-A2s, KJs-KTs, QJs, AJo-A2o, KJo-KTo, QJo }


    THE TURN ... I am behind.

    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    7,920 games 0.005 secs 1,584,000 games/sec

    Board: 9d Tc Jc 6d
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 45.1136 % 45.11% 00.00% { AhKs }
    Hand 2: 54.8864 % 54.89% 00.00% { 99-22, AJs-A2s, KJs-KTs, QJs, AJo-A2o, KJo-KTo, QJo }




    I looked at the past showdowns like I said and he showed down some pretty off the wall hands. I know I am heads up which is the greatest thing. I am asking if I should shove this turn... At least I got weak ass villain to min bet the flop. He is capable of folding.

    Ive got 825 in there with my PE sitting at 53%.
    Leaves me 735. I have no FE ...

    I cant beleive I am making mistakes like this ... Please correct me if my figures are wrong.. If they are somewhat on point.. I fucked this up PF, and on the flop too..

    I do not know how I can get good at doing this in the situation... It has to be routine for some of you...

    I am trying to really learn this. I ran it through the ICM and found that I had 4.98 of the PP ... By doubling up I would have had 8.0 making this play +EV ..

    Have I missed anything about this hand ? I really could careless about playing streets and so forth with this hand because it was screwed up PF .. Iam attempting to learn more about using an ICM and thinking out hands like this..
  8. #8
    Either shove Preflop or on the flop. YOu are pot comitted, push it while you have some fold equilty


  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by fasin8ing
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    With your stack at ~10x BB I just shove preflop. If opp folds and you take the blinds uncontested, you added 525 chips or 1/3 to your stack, that's a great outcome.
    So this level ... if I have 10 X the BB .. J J + AK Push all day everyday?
    Yep, depending on reads I would probably push JJ+ (maybe TT), AK and maybe AQ in this spot. With 10x BB you can't afford to frig about with standard re-raises. With AA and KK I might raise to 750 and push the rest in on the flop but everything else I'm just shoving preflop. Also, remember that AK needs to see all 5 cards to get max value against something like a PP.

    Quote Originally Posted by fasin8ing
    Can you give me some insight from postion wise where your pushing these hands? I am not quite sure I am that desperate yet..
    The more active players I need to push through, the tighter my range would need to be. For example, if I was UTG+1 and UTG minraised I would probably tighten my range to JJ+, AK. If it was folded to the SB who minraised and I was in the BB I would push over with a much wider range.
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    Push preflop and it's not even close.

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