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Push this flop? ($11)

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  1. 10-04-2006 07:09 AM #1
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    Default Push this flop? ($11)

    UTG is a loose donk (45/15), SB isn't much better (35/10). With 780 chips behind I'm short enough to push this flop, right?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t1110)
    SB (t3160)
    Hero (t980)
    UTG (t6060)
    MP (t2190)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, Q.
    UTG calls t200, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

    Flop: (t600) 8, J, 4 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero ????
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  2. 10-04-2006 07:12 AM #2
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    ya i shove it.
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  3. 10-04-2006 07:23 AM #3
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    fine,

    tho pf push wouldnt be a huge mistake if you feel UTG is rubbish.
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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  4. 10-04-2006 11:29 AM #4
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    reads on UTG ?
    If he is loose-passive I push it
    If he is loose-aggressive I check raise him
    If he is tight I check-fold


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  5. 10-04-2006 01:11 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    tho pf push wouldnt be a huge mistake if you feel UTG is rubbish.
    Pushing preflop basically guarrantees that you're playing for your stack with Q8o 3-way. I don't like it at all.



    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    reads on UTG ?...
    If he is loose-aggressive I check raise him
    I don't think you have enough chips here for a check-raise to add any equity to your hand.
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  6. 10-04-2006 03:00 PM #6
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    Shove, then close your eyes and pray one of these guys doesn't have a J, because any J is calling. QJ is the ultimate donkey hand to limp with so I have a feeling you were done by that.
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  7. 10-04-2006 04:05 PM #7
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    I wouldn't push. UTG limpers often show 9T, JQ in this spot.
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  8. 10-04-2006 04:11 PM #8
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    like salt 'n peppa said "Push it"
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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  9. 10-04-2006 10:16 PM #9
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    OK, I agree I should have just pushed this.

    As I'm weak/tight I checked and UTG checked behind. Turn came 9 and SB bet 200. Your move? Push or fold?
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  10. 10-04-2006 11:19 PM #10
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    Given your stack size at this point and the limit you play. Your best choice is to PUSH here. You may lose, but, at this point it is irrevelant.
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  11. 10-05-2006 12:03 AM #11
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    Now it has to come down to reads on SB. Is he raising any two here? You can basically only beat a bluff. Against most people, I'm folding.
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  12. 10-05-2006 12:08 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
    Now it has to come down to reads on SB. Is he raising any two here? You can basically only beat a bluff. Against most people, I'm folding.
    That's what I thought (and did) - he's basically your typical loose passive $11 player, so I figured he had something like A9/K9 and folded.

    Agree it was a mistake not to push the flop though.
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