What? Why? Who? How?

[Anosmic]

fnord edit: crap hit wrong button and over-wrote over the post

[nutsinho]

There aren't words to describe how much spewage is going on in Hand 1.

[Anosmic]

Use pictures?

What do we put him on, and how?

Poker hurts my brain it does.

[aislephive]

Hand 1 you should fold to the turn raise, you're beating nothing from any opponent who doesn't hate money.

Hand 2 wtf is the 1/3 pot donk lead into the PFR? Either bet out stronger like $2 or check call the flop and lead the turn (folding to a raise most likely). Kind of a tough spot vs an aggro opponent when your line could have induced a bluff. I think you're better off folding preflop as well or three betting.

[gabe]

1- fold to turn raise. typically with this type of hand you want to get value from by betting but as soon as youre raised you know you are beat, unless vs a maniac.

2- looks good if you KNOW they are aggro, but you have to be pretty sure. i usually check call flop and bet turn instead of making that weird flop bet.

[nutsinho]

In hand one, unless the villain is very aggro, you can certainly shut down once your flop 3 bet is called. Definitely fold to the turn raise. There's not much you even beat when he raises the first time (KQ, maybe AQ if he's passive preflop but wakes up postflop).

Hand 2 is a toughie and I think I like Gabe's suggesting of 3betting or folding preflop.

[Fnord]

In hand one, unless the villain is very aggro, you can certainly shut down once your flop 3 bet is called.

This is aburd. If we really feel this way, don't 3-bet.

Agree, that you're fucked on the turn.

Hand 2: Just try to get it in on the flop as played.

[Anosmic]

Right.
Resultswise the opps had T9o and Q7o respectively.

I have to confess that I put opp1 on Qx and was afraid it was QJ. The only set I don't expect him to raise pre-flop is 66 and that's got to be unlikely with one six out and one in my hand.
It seems as likely to me that he has a slow-played overpair as QJ or Q8.

But as I said, I really didn't see T9 coming. Something I'll have to bear in mind.

[Fnord]

But as I said, I really didn't see T9 coming. Something I'll have to bear in mind.

Don't put him on a hand, put him on a range of hands based on his play. On the turn he's repping a hand that has bottom two crushed.