AK facing AI reraise early $27, 2 table

[TLR]

PokerStars Game #6640805894: Tournament #33754269, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/10/15 - 08:35:31 (ET)
Table '33754269 2' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: shivanrico (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: alishik (2020 in chips)
Seat 3: swaby (1400 in chips)
Seat 4: seby33 (1320 in chips)
Seat 5: tafer (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: Ross99 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Forty2u (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: bbaxel (1260 in chips)
Seat 9: Garstons (1500 in chips)
seby33: posts small blind 10
tafer: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Forty2u [Ad Ks]
Ross99: calls 20
Forty2u: raises 80 to 100
bbaxel: calls 100
Garstons: folds
shivanrico: folds
alishik: raises 1920 to 2020 and is all-in
swaby: folds
seby33: folds
tafer: folds
Ross99: folds
Forty2u: ?

[Da GOAT]

i think its a flip vs a med-PP or AK.


most donks doing this wont have AA,KK since theyll raise it.

AK,QQ,JJ,TT would do this IMO since they are afraid post flop.

its tough but id fold

[taipan168]

Yeah, I fold this too. No need to risk taking a flip this early IMO.

[bearcats05]

this is an easy laydown.
i actually dont even like to play AK from ep this early in the tourney.

[mrhappy333]

this is an easy laydown.
i actually wouldnt even play AK from ep this early in the tourney.

I would fold too, but isn't AK an ep hand? It's a hand you raise with, or even re raise? amirite?

[bearcats05]

im sure some people will disagree with me but i dont like to get a lot of chips involved with it early on. i think its better to just play really tight right away and occasionaly double up with AA, KK, maybe QQ or limp from lp and hit a set... or if you dont get anything you will still have a decent stack when its gets to the bubble or close to the bubble and if you know what you are doing there you can make a lot of money. getting chips early on doesnt make that much difference but losing a lot or getting knocked out really hurts you in sngs.

[TLR]

im sure some people will disagree with me but i dont like to get a lot of chips involved with it early on. i think its better to just play really tight right away and occasionaly double up with AA, KK, maybe QQ or limp from lp and hit a set... or if you dont get anything you will still have a decent stack when its gets to the bubble or close to the bubble and if you know what you are doing there you can make a lot of money. getting chips early on doesnt make that much difference but losing a lot or getting knocked out really hurts you in sngs.

Do you play turbo or regular speed ? I dont think this tactic holds well in turbos, and even more so in two table tourneys, you will usually be blinded out well before the bubble without ever seeing AA, KK, QQ, not to mention that you will usually not get paid with those hands since people will realize you are tight as a virgin's ass

[bearcats05]

im sure some people will disagree with me but i dont like to get a lot of chips involved with it early on. i think its better to just play really tight right away and occasionaly double up with AA, KK, maybe QQ or limp from lp and hit a set... or if you dont get anything you will still have a decent stack when its gets to the bubble or close to the bubble and if you know what you are doing there you can make a lot of money. getting chips early on doesnt make that much difference but losing a lot or getting knocked out really hurts you in sngs.

Do you play turbo or regular speed ? I dont think this tactic holds well in turbos, and even more so in two table tourneys, you will usually be blinded out well before the bubble without ever seeing AA, KK, QQ, not to mention that you will usually not get paid with those hands since people will realize you are tight as a virgin's ass

regulars at full tilt you can easily make it to the bubble or near the bubble without getting blinded out. at the 20's amd 30's i dont think you have much of a table image anyways... probably not much at the 50's either i would think. maybe 100 and up.

[Da GOAT]

Do you play turbo or regular speed ? I dont think this tactic holds well in turbos, and even more so in two table tourneys, you will usually be blinded out well before the bubble without ever seeing AA, KK, QQ, not to mention that you will usually not get paid with those hands since people will realize you are tight as a virgin's ass

im strictly playing turbos in PS $16 (though for a month say). still this early i wouldnt do it,i fold here.

if blinds are 25/50 i may get it allin pf since i would of observed opp that bit more and feel is range is looser than AK, high PP.

[TLR]

Do you play turbo or regular speed ? I dont think this tactic holds well in turbos, and even more so in two table tourneys, you will usually be blinded out well before the bubble without ever seeing AA, KK, QQ, not to mention that you will usually not get paid with those hands since people will realize you are tight as a virgin's ass

im strictly playing turbos in PS $16 (though for a month say). still this early i wouldnt do it,i fold here.

if blinds are 25/50 i may get it allin pf since i would of observed opp that bit more and feel is range is looser than AK, high PP.

I folded too, I was referred to bearcat comment that he would fold anything other then AA-QQ till the bubble, this does not work in turbos, let alone 2 table turbo.

The raiser had JJ, the caller, who also called the AI had KT

[Da GOAT]

Do you play turbo or regular speed ? I dont think this tactic holds well in turbos, and even more so in two table tourneys, you will usually be blinded out well before the bubble without ever seeing AA, KK, QQ, not to mention that you will usually not get paid with those hands since people will realize you are tight as a virgin's ass

im strictly playing turbos in PS $16 (though for a month say). still this early i wouldnt do it,i fold here.

if blinds are 25/50 i may get it allin pf since i would of observed opp that bit more and feel is range is looser than AK, high PP.

I folded too, I was referred to bearcat comment that he would fold anything other then AA-QQ till the bubble, this does not work in turbos, let alone 2 table turbo.

The raiser had JJ, the caller, who also called the AI had KT

i missed 2 of his replys before i wrote this

one said he folds it in EP straight away

Bubble in $16 i find can get till 200+antes stage even 400 blinds, on PS his strategy would be flawed.

[taipan168]

No way I am open folding AK in this spot. I would play 66-TT and AQ for a limp (and 22-55 if I thought the table was passive which is probably not the case at a $27) and JJ-AA and AK for a raise of exactly the same size that TLR did.

[bearcats05]

Do you play turbo or regular speed ? I dont think this tactic holds well in turbos, and even more so in two table tourneys, you will usually be blinded out well before the bubble without ever seeing AA, KK, QQ, not to mention that you will usually not get paid with those hands since people will realize you are tight as a virgin's ass

im strictly playing turbos in PS $16 (though for a month say). still this early i wouldnt do it,i fold here.

if blinds are 25/50 i may get it allin pf since i would of observed opp that bit more and feel is range is looser than AK, high PP.

I folded too, I was referred to bearcat comment that he would fold anything other then AA-QQ till the bubble, this does not work in turbos, let alone 2 table turbo.

The raiser had JJ, the caller, who also called the AI had KT

i dont only play AA-QQ.
ill limp any pp from lp. JJ i will limp from ep. ill raise AK from lp if it gets folded around.
and not just to the bubble sometimes the blinds get higher up and there is still like 6 people left and i will start to open up a lot.
the way i play works for a big roi at the 20s... i feel like i know icm and bubble play very well too which really helps, and for situations in tourneys that actually do require hand reading on every street.

[TLR]

Do you play turbo or regular speed ? I dont think this tactic holds well in turbos, and even more so in two table tourneys, you will usually be blinded out well before the bubble without ever seeing AA, KK, QQ, not to mention that you will usually not get paid with those hands since people will realize you are tight as a virgin's ass

im strictly playing turbos in PS $16 (though for a month say). still this early i wouldnt do it,i fold here.

if blinds are 25/50 i may get it allin pf since i would of observed opp that bit more and feel is range is looser than AK, high PP.

I folded too, I was referred to bearcat comment that he would fold anything other then AA-QQ till the bubble, this does not work in turbos, let alone 2 table turbo.

The raiser had JJ, the caller, who also called the AI had KT

i dont only play AA-QQ.
ill limp any pp from lp. JJ i will limp from ep. ill raise AK from lp if it gets folded around.
and not just to the bubble sometimes the blinds get higher up and there is still like 6 people left and i will start to open up a lot.
the way i play works for a big roi at the 20s... i feel like i know icm and bubble play very well too which really helps, and for situations in tourneys that actually do require hand reading on every street.

I think this approach is too tight for turbo Sngs, it may work well for regualr speed

[bearcats05]

well yeah obviously.