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    Default theoretical situation

    you are playing 5/10 6max. You raise PF from MP a get a caller on CO. flop is xxx and you c-bet and he makes it 3x. you call. now, describe a particular situation where you will bet into the flop raiser instead of checking to him. I mean, we basically _always_ check to him? so describe opponents, our image, one particular holding and board.

    One very simple example, I might do that when..

    I have AA, flop comes K T2 two tone, my opponent is a good player ~22/15 and knows I might go for a CR with a good holding (or a strong draw) here on turn and turn bricks totally. (occasionally I 3-bet the flop here if I feel my opponent is on a fast-mode)
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    With a strong but semi-vulnerable holding like a big overpair or top and bottom pair I will lead the turn again, if theres enough behind that I can get away if he pushes.

    With a monster or with a weak hand I usually check.

    It also depends on if I can put draws in his range on the flop and the turn is a brick, then I almost always lead again (if I think my hand is good).
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    I'm bumping this because I think it's an interesting question and would like more HS players to chime in.
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    I think in the example Ping gave opponent is more likely to be on a draw QJ or KQ here, but not KT, given the aggressive nature of the game. I would let the villain hang himself here if he is a calling station who over values top pair, but more likely to bet into him if he is likely to raise on draws and take a free card.

    If you have an image so far in that you're weak tight, i think it is best to continue with that image as thats how to extract the most out of him. Villain is raising here to possible get you off your hand, and, if you bet again is more likely to push on the turn, forcing you to fold.


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    I lead out always... is that wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripj0hngotti
    I lead out always... is that wrong?
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    You are playing a strong TAG and you hold 55's. TAG sees you as LAG. The flop is 5 6 A . I think the best play is an overly large bet. What could he put you on other than a desire to get him out of the hand ? Him being tight aggressive he probably has an Ace or a large pocket pair and probably would not be too afraid to reraise or get all his money in. Does anyone agree or disagree ?
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    Did you even read the question?
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    If he's a player who doesn't raise draws IP, I might bet into him if turn is completing a draw as a bluff, if I hit my draw I bet into him fairly often as well as if I turned a set or two pair or whatever, depends on how likely I think it is that he'll bet again in position and also how likely I think it is that he'll raise me on a bluff on turn.
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    To keep your game balanced you have to lead the turn with your monsters as well some of the time otherwise good players will pick up on the fact that you only lead the turn after getting raised when you are planning to fold to a raise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkana
    To keep your game balanced you have to lead the turn with your monsters as well some of the time otherwise good players will pick up on the fact that you only lead the turn after getting raised when you are planning to fold to a raise.

    True, but thats why you mix it up by calling them down when their turn raise doesn't add up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    Quote Originally Posted by arkana
    To keep your game balanced you have to lead the turn with your monsters as well some of the time otherwise good players will pick up on the fact that you only lead the turn after getting raised when you are planning to fold to a raise.
    True, but thats why you mix it up by calling them down when their turn raise doesn't add up.
    Ok but if you never lead the turn with a monster after getting raised on the flop, you wont have much folding equity when you fire again with your combo draw semi bluffs and people will be more likely to try and push you off your hand when you do bet (which will leave you with all the difficult decisions OOP, not a good thing). Also certain opponents love raising the flop with all sorts of hands and will often check behind on the turn and take the free card.

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