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    New to the sng turbo's, bubbled out of my first 3 in a row. Any suggestions for these last 14 hands that I'm involved in late game?

    -----Hand 9-----
    Hero's M = 11.93
    PokerStars Game #6740887468: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/10/23 - 14:57:24 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (2685 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (2430 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (4350 in chips)
    Seat 8: geiratle (2465 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (1570 in chips)
    Hero: posts small blind 75
    allinmimi: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ah Th]
    TheShagstr: folds
    geiratle: folds
    ShortK: folds
    Hero: raises 300 to 450
    allinmimi: folds
    Hero collected 300 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    -----Hand 10-----
    Hero's M = 9.45
    PokerStars Game #6740891437: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/10/23 - 14:57:48 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (2835 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (2280 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (4350 in chips)
    Seat 8: geiratle (2465 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (1570 in chips)
    allinmimi: posts small blind 100
    TheShagstr: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ad Qc]
    geiratle: calls 200
    ShortK: folds
    Hero: raises 800 to 1000
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr: calls 800
    geiratle: calls 800
    *** FLOP *** [8c 2c 3c]
    TheShagstr: checks
    geiratle: checks
    Hero is disconnected
    Hero is connected
    Hero: checks
    *** TURN *** [8c 2c 3c] [2s]
    TheShagstr: checks
    geiratle: checks
    Hero: checks
    *** RIVER *** [8c 2c 3c 2s] [As]
    TheShagstr: checks
    geiratle: checks
    Hero: bets 400
    TheShagstr: folds
    geiratle: folds
    Hero collected 3100 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    -----Hand 11-----
    Hero's M = 16.45
    PokerStars Game #6740922749: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/10/23 - 15:01:01 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (4935 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (2180 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (3250 in chips)
    Seat 8: geiratle (965 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (2170 in chips)
    ShortK: posts small blind 100
    Hero: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [5s 4d]
    allinmimi: calls 200
    TheShagstr: folds
    geiratle: folds
    ShortK: folds
    Hero: checks
    *** FLOP *** [7d 9s Kc]
    Hero: checks
    allinmimi: checks
    *** TURN *** [7d 9s Kc] [9d]
    Hero: bets 400
    allinmimi: folds
    Hero collected 500 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    -----Hand 12-----
    Hero's M = 17.12
    PokerStars Game #6740931777: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/10/23 - 15:01:56 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (5135 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (1780 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (3550 in chips)
    Seat 8: geiratle (965 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (2070 in chips)
    allinmimi: posts small blind 100
    TheShagstr: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Js Kc]
    geiratle: calls 200
    ShortK: folds
    Hero: calls 200
    allinmimi: calls 100
    TheShagstr: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Ah 9h Ts]
    allinmimi: checks
    TheShagstr: bets 600
    geiratle: folds
    Hero: folds
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr collected 800 from pot

    -----Hand 13-----
    Hero's M = 11.61
    PokerStars Game #6740941348: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/10/23 - 15:02:53 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (4935 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (1580 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (4050 in chips)
    Seat 8: geiratle (865 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (2070 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    geiratle: posts small blind 100
    ShortK: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Qc Tc]
    Hero: raises 300 to 500
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr: folds
    geiratle: folds
    ShortK: folds
    Hero collected 625 from pot

    -----Hand 14-----
    Hero's M = 12.55
    PokerStars Game #6740947486: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/10/23 - 15:03:30 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (5335 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (1555 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (4025 in chips)
    Seat 8: geiratle (740 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (1845 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    ShortK: posts small blind 100
    Hero: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [8d 4h]
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr: folds
    geiratle: calls 200
    ShortK: calls 100
    Hero is disconnected
    Hero is connected
    Hero: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Kc Jh Ah]
    ShortK: checks
    Hero: checks
    geiratle: checks
    *** TURN *** [Kc Jh Ah] [Th]
    ShortK: checks
    Hero: checks
    geiratle: checks
    *** RIVER *** [Kc Jh Ah Th] [8c]
    ShortK: bets 200
    Hero: folds
    geiratle: folds
    ShortK collected 725 from pot
    ShortK: doesn't show hand

    -----Hand 15-----
    Hero's M = 10.73
    PokerStars Game #6740986144: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/10/23 - 15:07:23 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (4560 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (2130 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (3285 in chips)
    Seat 8: geiratle (1105 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (2420 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    allinmimi: posts small blind 100
    TheShagstr: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Qh 9c]
    geiratle: folds
    ShortK: folds
    Hero: raises 300 to 500
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr: folds
    Hero collected 625 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    -----Hand 16-----
    Hero's M = 6.12
    PokerStars Game #6741002612: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/10/23 - 15:09:02 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (4285 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (2230 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (2785 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (4200 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    allinmimi: posts small blind 200
    TheShagstr: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [8d Ac]
    ShortK: folds
    Hero: raises 400 to 800
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr: calls 400
    *** FLOP *** [Ks Qd 9d]
    TheShagstr: checks
    Hero: bets 400
    TheShagstr: raises 800 to 1200
    Hero: folds
    TheShagstr collected 2700 from pot

    -----Hand 17-----
    Hero's M = 4.34
    PokerStars Game #6741016177: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/10/23 - 15:10:23 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (3035 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (1980 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (4035 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (4450 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    ShortK: posts small blind 200
    Hero: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ah 8s]
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr: folds
    ShortK: calls 200
    Hero: raises 2610 to 3010 and is all-in
    ShortK: folds
    Hero collected 900 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    -----Hand 18-----
    Hero's M = 4.69
    PokerStars Game #6741023493: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/10/23 - 15:11:07 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (3285 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (1530 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (4685 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (4000 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    allinmimi: posts small blind 200
    TheShagstr: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [2h 2d]
    ShortK: folds
    Hero: raises 600 to 1000
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr: folds
    Hero collected 1100 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    -----Hand 19-----
    Hero's M = 5.01
    PokerStars Game #6741037592: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/10/23 - 15:12:32 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (3510 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (1255 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (4710 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (4025 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    Hero: posts small blind 200
    allinmimi: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Kd Ts]
    TheShagstr: folds
    ShortK: folds
    Hero: raises 3085 to 3485 and is all-in
    allinmimi: calls 830 and is all-in
    *** FLOP *** [As 9d 2h]
    *** TURN *** [As 9d 2h] [9s]
    *** RIVER *** [As 9d 2h 9s] [Jd]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Hero: shows [Kd Ts] (a pair of Nines)
    allinmimi: shows [4h 4c] (two pair, Nines and Fours)
    allinmimi collected 2560 from pot

    -----Hand 20-----
    Hero's M = 2.05
    PokerStars Game #6741043044: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2006/10/23 - 15:13:04 (ET)
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    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (2255 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (2560 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (4685 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (4000 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 50
    allinmimi: posts small blind 300
    TheShagstr: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [9s Kh]
    ShortK: folds
    Hero: raises 1605 to 2205 and is all-in
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr: folds
    Hero collected 1700 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    -----Hand 21-----
    Hero's M = 2.05
    PokerStars Game #6741056159: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2006/10/23 - 15:14:23 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (2255 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (1460 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (5785 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (4000 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 50
    allinmimi: posts small blind 300
    TheShagstr: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [9s Kc]
    ShortK: folds
    Hero: raises 1605 to 2205 and is all-in
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr: folds
    Hero collected 1700 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    -----Hand 22-----
    Hero's M = 3.00
    PokerStars Game #6741062547: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2006/10/23 - 15:15:01 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (3305 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (1110 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (5135 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (3950 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 50
    TheShagstr: posts small blind 300
    ShortK: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ks Jd]
    Hero: raises 600 to 1200
    allinmimi: calls 1060 and is all-in
    TheShagstr: folds
    ShortK: folds
    *** FLOP *** [7h 4c Ts]
    *** TURN *** [7h 4c Ts] [3c]
    *** RIVER *** [7h 4c Ts 3c] [2s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Hero: shows [Ks Jd] (high card King)
    allinmimi: shows [9s 9d] (a pair of Nines)
    allinmimi collected 3220 from pot

    -----Hand 23-----
    Hero's M = 2.00
    PokerStars Game #6741067587: Tournament #34303212, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2006/10/23 - 15:15:32 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '34303212 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 2: Hero (2195 in chips)
    Seat 3: allinmimi (3220 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheShagstr (4785 in chips)
    Seat 9: ShortK (3300 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 50
    ShortK: posts small blind 300
    Hero: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Th Kc]
    allinmimi: folds
    TheShagstr: folds
    ShortK: raises 600 to 1200
    Hero: raises 945 to 2145 and is all-in
    ShortK: calls 945
    *** FLOP *** [5c 5h Qd]
    *** TURN *** [5c 5h Qd] [As]
    *** RIVER *** [5c 5h Qd As] [6c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    ShortK: shows [9s Ah] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
    Hero: shows [Th Kc] (a pair of Fives)
    ShortK collected 4490 from pot
  2. #2
    from just a quick look there are many things you had better understand.

    learn to play when you have 10 times the BB.

    just read through alot of posts on this forum to understand this play.

    also learn which hands you should play and why.

    i think turbos will cost you alot of money if you dont focus on these things. also if you can purchase SNGPT get it.
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
  3. #3
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    pretty standard. it looks like you were being aggressive.

    to nit pick a bit, i would c-bet the flop when checked to in the AQ hand at the top, but other than that, this good aggressive play will do you wonders in the turbos
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
  4. #4
    okay my previous post doesnt help you, sorry jus tired.

    9-fine
    10-push preflop
    12-horrible,fold preflop. calling is the worst option and raise if limper calls a worst range.
    13-fold pf
    15-good steal though beware your image
    16-fold pf
    17-good
    18-fold pf
    20+21-fine
    22-push pf. as played horrible
    23-what range you put villian on with this minraise. i still call though.
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
  5. #5
    First off thanks for the input guys, it is much appreciated. As far as the specific hands go:

    “to nit pick a bit, i would c-bet the flop when checked to in the AQ hand at the top” – I wasn’t sure how much to c-bet on the flop since I only had roughly 1800 left in my stack, and the pot was already 3000+. Push that flop if checked too? Fold if bet at then I take it?

    “12-horrible,fold preflop. calling is the worst option and raise if limper calls a worst range.” – I was definitely unsure what to do here. My initial thought process was that I had a pretty significant chip lead over the 3 remaining stacks, so I could afford to limp in with a semi-decent hand and re-evaluate after the flop. If it is indeed a fold/raise situation, how much do you make it to go?

    “13-fold pf” – Basically I was trying to raise enough to get the 2 medium stacks out of there, and provoke the small stack to pushing over the top so I could go heads up since I would gladly take a coin flip (or something close) to try and get rid of him and in the $. Is that thought process a big mistake?

    “16-fold pf” – I think I overvalue the ace in the late game. When it gets to these blind levels and on the bubble, I’ve always raised the ace with an 8+ kicker. How much should I tighten my requirements up? (Generally speaking)

    “18-fold pf” – I raise any pp when it comes down to the bubble, bad move?

    Again, thank you for the input.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Lokedog
    “to nit pick a bit, i would c-bet the flop when checked to in the AQ hand at the top” – I wasn’t sure how much to c-bet on the flop since I only had roughly 1800 left in my stack, and the pot was already 3000+. Push that flop if checked too? Fold if bet at then I take it?

    bode must of misread it. its a clear push since any c/b you make will leave you pot committed.

    “12-horrible,fold preflop. calling is the worst option and raise if limper calls a worst range.” – I was definitely unsure what to do here. My initial thought process was that I had a pretty significant chip lead over the 3 remaining stacks, so I could afford to limp in with a semi-decent hand and re-evaluate after the flop. If it is indeed a fold/raise situation, how much do you make it to go?

    then fold. try not to think ill limp here coz its nice looking and ill reevaluate. if you limp and shorty pushes will you call? you will be underdog to any ace too. also as a note calling any allins with any king high hand is usually bad news without reads.

    “13-fold pf” – Basically I was trying to raise enough to get the 2 medium stacks out of there, and provoke the small stack to pushing over the top so I could go heads up since I would gladly take a coin flip (or something close) to try and get rid of him and in the $. Is that thought process a big mistake?

    do you not find that some big stacks at this level dont want to co-operate?? some will see it as weakness and attack especially donks.

    “16-fold pf” – I think I overvalue the ace in the late game. When it gets to these blind levels and on the bubble, I’ve always raised the ace with an 8+ kicker. How much should I tighten my requirements up? (Generally speaking)


    here you have less than 10xBB where techically if you raise 2-3xBB and get pushed over, you then must call the rest of your stack off since pot odds warrant it. so here its push or fold. i vote for fold since pushing is marginal +-EV.


    “18-fold pf” – I raise any pp when it comes down to the bubble, bad move?

    again you raised with a small stack with 33. its push or fold time and you dont need to take that chance since relative stack are about equal.

    Again, thank you for the input.
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Lokedog
    “16-fold pf” – I think I overvalue the ace in the late game. When it gets to these blind levels and on the bubble, I’ve always raised the ace with an 8+ kicker. How much should I tighten my requirements up? (Generally speaking)
    Haven't looked through all the hands, but I would shove 16 (A8o on the button). Hero has the blinds covered so their calling range would be pretty tight given it's the bubble. Even if they are looser, shoving is pretty much never -EV. Minraising is bad in this spot, Hero spewed 1200 chips here.
  8. #8
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    16 is an easy push imo.

    18 is fine, chance to escape vs. big stack and good opportunity to flip with shortie.

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