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[JeffreyGB]

Reads: Nuke seemed relatively decent as a player. He was the table-coach, telling other people how bad their play was.

PokerStars Game #6733350365: Tournament #34260686, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/10/22 - 21:16:41 (ET)
Table '34260686 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: trypto (2829 in chips)
Seat 3: allinryou (1237 in chips)
Seat 4: schmez1 (935 in chips)
Seat 5: nukemaster1 (2185 in chips)
Seat 7: HankHH (1701 in chips)
Seat 8: TigerWolve (2890 in chips)
Seat 9: JGB146 (1723 in chips)
nukemaster1: posts small blind 25
HankHH: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JGB146 [Ac Kd]
TigerWolve: folds
JGB146: raises 100 to 150
trypto: folds
allinryou: folds
schmez1: folds
nukemaster1: calls 125
HankHH: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ks 5c 2h]
nukemaster1: checks
JGB146: bets 200
nukemaster1: calls 200
*** TURN *** [Ks 5c 2h] [8h]
nukemaster1: checks
JGB146: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks 5c 2h 8h] [Ts]
nukemaster1: bets 250
JGB146: calls 250

[TLR]

Jeffery wrote:

He was the table-coach, telling other people how bad their play was.

Dont you just hate this type ?

Regarding the hand
Preflop and flop are standard.

I assume you slowed down on the turn since you figured a set is a possible hand, and with no draws possible you dont mind giving a free card.

Villian's river bet can be either a set betting for value, mid PP (66-JJ, excluding 88) that believe they are ahead, or Ax who called your presumed c-bet on the flop and interperts your turn check as a sign of weakness.

Your play makes a lot of sense but I think I would still bet 300 on the turn, if I am called I am checking the river if checked to me, and probably folding to any real bet, if he comes over the top on the turn I fold.

The fact that he was 'table captain' is useful, they tend to fall into a very streotypical of 'correct but unimaginative play'. I dont see him coming over the top of a turn bet with anything less then a set on this board

[JeffreyGB]

Your analysis is pretty correct. I figured I was either way ahead or way behind, and a free card wouldn't hurt much. I also figured that by checking, I allow him to bluff with hands I beat which he wouldn't call an extra bet with. I lose the same amount the times I'm beat, but potentially win more the times I win.

[donkbee]

Being in position is really nice in a spot like this, it's when you're OOP it sucks. Thinking about it, I'm curious ... would you have bet or check the turn if your flop bet was called, Jeffrey?

I like the way this hand was played, I think it's a good way to have a show down and lose as little as possible when you're beat. It does make me ask this question: what is the largest bet you call on the river?

[TLR]

Actually after rereading this hand I like your line a lot

[JeffreyGB]

Being in position is really nice in a spot like this, it's when you're OOP it sucks. Thinking about it, I'm curious ... would you have bet or check the turn if your flop bet was called, Jeffrey?

I likely play check/call both the turn and the river. The river becomes a bit more questionable, because his range for bluffing is vastly decreased.

I like the way this hand was played, I think it's a good way to have a show down and lose as little as possible when you're beat. It does make me ask this question: what is the largest bet you call on the river?

I probably call any bet. The larger the bet, the less likely I am behind, I think (as most hands that beat me are going to want action of some sort). If I specifically knew my opp to overbet the nuts, then I'd make an exception, obvioiusly, but in general, I doubt I'm folding much there.

[johnny_fish]

This should be a standard line vs. a decent player. Only bet the turn if there's a lot of Kx in his range.

Being in position is really nice in a spot like this, it's when you're OOP it sucks. Thinking about it, I'm curious ... would you have bet or check the turn if your flop bet was called, Jeffrey?

I likely play check/call both the turn and the river. The river becomes a bit more questionable, because his range for bluffing is vastly decreased.

I like c/c turn oop, but I'd b/f the river. Middle pairs might call but won't bet.