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    Default Do you ever call c-bets OOP with Air?

    If you think he's bluffing?
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    Default Re: Do you ever call c-bets OOP with Air?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigslikk
    If you think he's bluffing?
    i rarely ever do it ...i think C/R is ten times better ...
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    What's your plan on the turn and later?
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    No.

    Ill do it sometimes in position to see what happens on the turn. But you should never check call a bluff with nothing.

    Check raise at the least, but I prefer not to do this with no outs.
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    I don't do it, but people do this oop floating crap against me and it works sometimes, so I think it's a semi valid strategy...at least if you play the same person a lot. but I generally like the c/r on the flop more too.
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    Nah, I prefer a C/R or fold. But overall, I hate bluffing so I try to not do too much with air, except c-bet it.
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    i normally don't enjoy bluff-calling
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    i dont like to do it. i like when others do, especially when i hit my hidden set on the turn.
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    Check raising is your best bet. No pun intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryToma
    i dont like to do it. i like when others do, especially when i hit my hidden set on the turn.
    pair does not equal air obv

    pair/p = air
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    actually checkcalling the flop and leadbetting the turn is much more ev than checkraising.

    It lets you see if you hit a turn card, and its better risk/reward.

    However, this isn't a line I would use with absolutely nothing. I like to have a weak hand like overcards or a missed small pocket pair.
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    I agree with renton, but I have to have outs, or have the possibility of outs if the turn hits the right way. and then I bet on the turn. but all this depends on the opp.

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    if I'm playing a weak op, and think he's c-betting with nothing, and I've fairly solids reads on him, I prefer to call the flop and lead/reraise the turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    actually checkcalling the flop and leadbetting the turn is much more ev than checkraising.

    It lets you see if you hit a turn card, and its better risk/reward.

    However, this isn't a line I would use with absolutely nothing. I like to have a weak hand like overcards or a missed small pocket pair.
    I agree with Renton here. It takes specific reads, and I don't do it often, but I would also do it with air - a nice 3/4 pot bet on any turn, the scarier the card the better, and it's usually mine.
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    Sometimes. Rarely, though.

    I'd be much more apt to RAISE with it.
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    I do it a lot against some opponents, although I like to mix in check/raising too.
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    i do it a lot vs opponents who are very aggro preflop but have a tough time firing multiple bullets.

    someone raising preflop w any 2 when folded to u...

    call preflop

    check-call flop

    check/fold turn

    "value-bet" river

    this wins a ton of pots in my experience
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    plus

    if you're caught ppl will give absolutely zero respect and will start pulling all sorts of shit vs you. it drives bad taggs off the deep end
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    in Acehud terms, the villain i have in mind usually runs around 37/26/1.5 btw
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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