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  1. #1

    Default Knocked out of a rebuy

    I played really badly on Monday in a £10 rebuy. This is how I ended up getting knocked out. These are my last 3 hands (in the freezeout period).

    Hand 1: My stack is about 5400 chips - about average for my table. The table is 9 handed and blinds are at 150/300. There are between 30-40 players left in the tournament and top 8 get paid. A player in 3rd position limps in. Everyone else folds and it comes to me on the button. I call with K9s. SB calls. BB moves allin for about 4000 chips. Everyone folds and BB takes the hand.

    Hand 2: My stack is now 5100. It gets folded to me in the cut-off seat. I raise to 800 with A4s. Button folds and SB moves allin for about 5000 chips (the same player as last hand). BB folds and then I fold.

    Hand 3: My stack is now 4300 chips. It gets folded to me in 5th position. I raise to 800 with KQs. It gets folded to the SB (the player that moved allin in hands 1 and 2 also folded). The SB pushes me allin. BB folds. I think for a bit. I need to call 3500 with 5400 in the pot. Slightly better than 1.5 to 1 odds (I need 39.3% or better chance of winning the hand). I decided to call. The other player shows AKo and he knocks me out the tournament.

    I decided to call because of the raising in the 2 hands before this and my stack was getting smaller and smaller every hand. I sort of went on tilt. I was hoping the player that moved me allin would AJ or AT. The range I put this player on was A9+ or 88+. But there was even a chance that this player could have even less, because of my table image. I had been quite aggressive and 5 hands previously I had made a big check-raise bluff. I didn’t show my cards for this hand, but the table had the impression that I had bluffed that hand and they were right. Also, I’m a kid - 18 years old. The players might think they can push me about.

    The cards weren’t shown in the first 2 hands, but he could have been bluffing on both of them. He may have had strong cards on both occasions but I think he bluffed at least one of them. This tilted me slightly for the next hand.

    I did learn a lot from this experience though. Great aggressive play my opponents. I love the allin reraise move in the BB. I've played it before but I saw how strong that move is.
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  2. #2
    1) you're on the edge of being too short to limp here, but I don't hate it, especially if you don't think the limper will fold to a raise.

    2) seems fine

    3) standard. If you don't want to call here, you should just fold. But I would play it the same.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by drmcboy
    1) you're on the edge of being too short to limp here, but I don't hate it, especially if you don't think the limper will fold to a raise.

    2) seems fine

    3) standard. If you don't want to call here, you should just fold. But I would play it the same.
    You'd be happy getting knocked out like this? It's hand number 3 that is the problem but the first 2 hands were a buildup to it.
    BTW - the 1st 2 hands could both have been bluffs. But I had to let the hands go. It was a strong play by my opponent.

    In Hand 1 - I don't think I can raise. I think the limper would have called and possibly even the blinds. I would have had to commit a big percentage of my stack to that hand if I had raised and then when I miss the flop I can easily be knocked out. And if I hit I might also get knocked out. I just wanted to see a cheap flop in hand 1.

    BTW - the average M at the table was less than 10 and it was still early in the tourney.

    When you buyin, the blinds are 25/50 and your stack is 700 chips. Mental. Then 45 minuts into the rebuy the blinds go up to 50/100. 45 minutes later the rebuy period ends and you can buy an addon of 1000 chips for the price of a normal buyin. And then the blinds go up to 100/200 and increase every 15 minutes. This is a live game btw. Not online.
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  4. #4
    especially with that structure, folding the KQs would be terrible. Did you run the numbers on your range?

    Code:
            	equity (%)  	win (%)	tie (%) 
    Hand  1:	38.6594 %  	38.33% 	00.33%      { KQs }
    Hand  2:	61.3406 %  	61.02% 	00.33%      { 88+, A9s+, A9o+ }
    add in some sort of bluff chance and it's an easy call.

    it isn't early in the tourney if the average M is less than 10.
  5. #5
    1) why do you want to see a cheap flop here? I mean, you have a decent hand, but I don't think you have the stack to play multi-way here. Still, I don't hate it on the button.

    2) Meh, pusher probably had crap in hand 1, and a good hand now.

    3) I might have raised less with KQs here. It's not tragic if you get a couple callers. and easier to fold to a re-raise. KQs much better than K9s. But given your read of his range, it's an easy call as played. Of course, your read might have been wrong...
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by drmcboy
    especially with that structure, folding the KQs would be terrible. Did you run the numbers on your range?

    Code:
            	equity (%)  	win (%)	tie (%) 
    Hand  1:	38.6594 %  	38.33% 	00.33%      { KQs }
    Hand  2:	61.3406 %  	61.02% 	00.33%      { 88+, A9s+, A9o+ }
    add in some sort of bluff chance and it's an easy call.

    it isn't early in the tourney if the average M is less than 10.
    OK. I should play as if it is late in the tourney although it feels as if it isn't. Everybody starts the tourney with an M of less than 10 so that's why it feels like early tourney.
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  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by drmcboy
    especially with that structure, folding the KQs would be terrible. Did you run the numbers on your range?

    Code:
            	equity (%)  	win (%)	tie (%) 
    Hand  1:	38.6594 %  	38.33% 	00.33%      { KQs }
    Hand  2:	61.3406 %  	61.02% 	00.33%      { 88+, A9s+, A9o+ }
    add in some sort of bluff chance and it's an easy call.

    it isn't early in the tourney if the average M is less than 10.
    Would you say this is an easy call?
    I need 39.5% chance of winning to play and my equity is only 38.5%.
    I have already added in a bit of a bluff factor by putting hands like A9 and 88 in the range. Can you expand on what you said about this being an easy call if you add in the chance that he's bluffing. Can explain you reasoning for saying this is an easy call please.

    Thank you
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    18 years old. short-handed $600NL.

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