Flop dilemma

[IowaSkinsFan]

Villan is 28/12

PokerStars Game #6796120479: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/10/27 - 23:10:38 (ET)
Table 'Ijiraq IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 3jersey3 ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 2: redgrape ($257.90 in chips)
Seat 3: Stormstrider ($209.80 in chips)
Seat 4: DavidM36 ($134.40 in chips)
Seat 5: Fun Fly ($19.40 in chips)
Seat 6: wezvidzz ($48.50 in chips)
DavidM36: posts small blind $0.50
Fun Fly: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redgrape [5c 5s]
wezvidzz: folds
3jersey3: folds
redgrape: raises $3 to $4
Stormstrider: raises $8 to $12
DavidM36: folds
Fun Fly: folds
redgrape: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Qs 5h 9h]
redgrape: bets $12 or checks?

[elipsesjeff]

NH. Only thing you can hope for is AA and AK to go ballistics putting you on the flush draw.

[IowaSkinsFan]

"redgrape: bets $12 or checks?"

sorry the question is unclear, check or bet. elippse i get you're saying bet is good.

[benny999]

Are you asking about being concerned about an overset, or whether b3b is better than a c/r?

I don't think worrying about an overset is worth it vs a non-nitty aggro, and b3b gets more in faster.

[DaNutsInYoEye]

You obviously want to play for stacks here and at 200 BBs deep you're going to have to do quite a bit of pot building to get there. I'd lead out and hope I get raised because it's probably your best hope to get AI by the river. If the raise is large enough I'd just 3-bet push. With stacks this deep a raise probably wouldn't be though so I'd call a smaller raise and hope he hangs himself on the turn where I'd check-raise AI.

[Jager]

Flops about $24? I would close pot it or overbet it in hopes of an AI or big reraise, he might put you on AQ and you can only hope he has AA or KK and will push it, he might even has AQ and will still push it. Also with his PF reraise, people don't like to let those hands go.

[Miffed22001]

I think you have two options depending on how you want to play it.
Either lead and call the probably ineveitable raise then c/r all in on the turn
or
lead and 3-bet all in which sort of looks like a combo flushdraw/gutshot draw or an overplayed AQ/KQ type hand.

FWIW, unless your opponent is bad enough to stack off this deep with KK/AA here id go with the top option because decent players may be able to get away from a bet/3bet all-in on this board with only an overpair.
bet/3betting all in 200bbs deep is a reason for someone to fold AA/KK, if they are only half decent enough to do it.
Thats all assuming opp doesnt have QQ ofc :Wink:

[gabe]

bet the full pot. with deep stacks you want to build it the pot ASAP so you can get all the money in.

[IowaSkinsFan]

bet the full pot. with deep stacks you want to build it the pot ASAP so you can get all the money in.

wow thanks for the advice, i bet 12 and he raised to 36 and I check bombed all in.