JJ first hand turbo 114

[johnny_fish]

I hate this line. Villain unknown. Alternatives?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1500
UTG+1: t1500
MP1: t1500
MP2: t1500
MP3: t1500
CO: t1500
Button: t1500
Hero: t1500
BB: t1500

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with J J
UTG raises to t40, 3 folds, MP3 calls t40 (pot was t70), CO calls t40 (pot was t110), Button folds, Hero raises to t240, BB folds, UTG calls t200 (pot was t380), 2 folds.

Flop: 5 T 7 (t580, 2 players)
Hero bets t370, UTG raises to t740, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t370 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: t1320

[donkbee]

First hand, no reads, horrible position, $114 turbo ... I think I'm calling behind here and playing for a set. Unless you have a read on UTG from a previous tourney, I don't like raising this because chips are so valuable and I have no idea whatsoever what he could have.

Johnny, I kind of asked this in another thread, but I'll ask again here ... Is it really possible to have that much of an edge in these $114s? I already think that $60s are very tight, you'll get at least a couple players at each table who know how to play push/fold poker. In a turbo, a player's edge comes from knowing preflop poker very well. With $114s, you're playing many of the same players over and over again, and a lot of these players understand preflop poker ... I just don't see how you can have enough of an edge in these for them to be worth your time.

Looking forward to your opinions.

[drmcboy]

play for set.

The raise is fine, but then I think you have to play it just like this.

[johnny_fish]

Johnny, I kind of asked this in another thread, but I'll ask again here ... Is it really possible to have that much of an edge in these $114s? I already think that $60s are very tight, you'll get at least a couple players at each table who know how to play push/fold poker. In a turbo, a player's edge comes from knowing preflop poker very well. With $114s, you're playing many of the same players over and over again, and a lot of these players understand preflop poker ... I just don't see how you can have enough of an edge in these for them to be worth your time.

I see enough mistakes to make 5% Roi a realistic goal imo. And 5% roi @ 114s > 8% @ 60s