1 hand: The dreadfull KK ;-)

[jimmy44]

Guys,

This is from the $2.4 SNG at Titan:

1 CoNL 2,050
3 Hero 1,750
5 ernst5 1,270
6 bonaX 2,330
8 alphan 2,150
10 stcak 2,450

blinds 50/100

Hero posts 50
ernst5 posts 100

bonaX: folds
alphan: calls 100
stcak: folds
CoNL: calls 100
Hero: raises 350 to 400
ernst5: folds
alphan: folds
CoNL: calls 300

flop: 4c 6s As

Hero: bets 600
CoNL: calls 600

turn: 7d

Hero: checks
CoNL: bets 1050 and is all-in
Hero: ???

What would you do here?
I've put him on an Ace after his calls on the flop. Though, thinking of it now, he was also maybe on a draw and after having missed it on the turn he was maybe bluffing ...
If he was on a Ace it would have been a small Ace and with my bet on the flop I was representing either a big pair or AK/AQ/AJ so I think a shove on the flop would be better, no?

Thanks!

[taipan168]

Raise a little more preflop, 500 to go with 2 limpers in front.

On the flop, check here, don't bet. You are either way ahead if opp doesn't have an A (in which case opp is drawing to 9 or less outs probably 5 or less) or way behind if he does (in which case you are drawing to 2 outs). Since you don't know which it is, don't put any more money in the pot. Plus at a low buyin, it is very likely that opp called you with Ax.

Search for a thread called "KK with an ace" in this forum, it had over 100 replies and was a GREAT discussion on this point - EDIT: here it is http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=21766

[jimmy44]

The trouble in not betting the flop is that he would most likely do it himself and in this case I'll have to fold ...

BTW, I cannot found the thread "KK with an ace" was it a long time ago?

[TLR]

My trouble is checking here is that it makes it pretty clear u dont have an A, and many players will bet with any 2 here.
However You can bet a bit less (probably 400 or so) to get the same info, since if he calls you are done with the hand anyhow