Trying to vary my game

[dreday]

I consider myself a pretty much of a TAGG player. I feel Im able loosen up accordinngly once the blinds go up and the table gets shorthanded.

But im always trying to find ways to improve my game, add more dimensions to it, etc..
Below Ill post a hand that Id really never play in this manner, but just felt like trying something new.

The blinds were probably to low to try such a thing, but here it is. ALl criticisms welcome.


Hand #36400348-14 at SnG-0015c (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
Started at 31/Oct/06 19:02:47

dreday227 is at seat 0 with 1740.
rustyraven is at seat 1 with 1650.
woo-hoo is at seat 2 with 1425.
tlegando is at seat 3 with 1710.
Chronic_Blue is at seat 4 with 1730.
harpist is at seat 5 with 2770.
Dumb Schmuck is at seat 6 with 710.
pongofly is at seat 7 with 1210.
cyberkp is at seat 8 with 2055.
The button is at seat 2.

tlegando posts the small blind of 15.
Chronic_Blue posts the big blind of 30.

dreday227: 8s 5s
rustyraven: -- --
woo-hoo: -- --
tlegando: -- --
Chronic_Blue: -- --
harpist: -- --
Dumb Schmuck: -- --
pongofly: -- --
cyberkp: -- --

Pre-flop:

harpist folds. Dumb Schmuck folds. pongofly folds.
cyberkp folds. dreday227 raises to 105. rustyraven
folds. woo-hoo folds. tlegando calls.
Chronic_Blue folds.

Flop (board: 6s 4s Js):

tlegando bets 120. dreday227 raises to 600.
tlegando goes all-in for 1605. dreday227 calls.

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

dreday227 shows 8s 5s.
tlegando shows Ah Ac.


Turn (board: 6s 4s Js 6c):

(no action in this round)


River (board: 6s 4s Js 6c 5h):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

dreday227 has 8s 5s 6s 4s Js: flush, jack high.
tlegando has Ah Ac 6s Js 6c: two pair, aces and sixes.


Hand #36400348-14 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
dreday227 wins 3450 with flush, jack high.

I realize this was an extremly lucky situation. First off, the donk with aces doesn't rerasie me and second, i flop a flush.

I like to open rasie when it is folded around to me in mid to late pos. and even though it is only a $10 sng, opponents will notice when you play trash, thus creating chances to get paid off later on when i really have the goods.

[taipan168]

I like to open rasie when it is folded around to me in mid to late pos. and even though it is only a $10 sng, opponents will notice when you play trash, thus creating chances to get paid off later on when i really have the goods.

At low buyins, this is often not a good assumption. I've been in situations where I haven't played a hand not in the blinds for 3 orbits, pick up AA, raise and still get called by some donk with JT.

[Lokedog]

Yea, I agree with Taipan. I really think ABC poker is the best way to go at our levels, getting fancy may be fun every once in a while but solid poker will make you more $.

[taipan168]

As played, I think I would like your LAggy play better if you had done this from the button rather than late MP - a) there would be 2 less players who might call your raise and b) you're guaranteed to have position postflop if called.

Obviously you're getting it all-in with a flopped flush, but if you want to raise this preflop you need to have a plan for the rest of the hand (in fact you always need to have a plan for every hand you play).

What was your plan if the flop:

- Missed you entirely and opp bet 120?
- Missed you entirely and opp checked?
- You hit top pair on the flop and opp bet 120?
- You hit bottom pair on the flop and opp bet 120?
- You hit bottom pair on the flop and opp checked?

[bearcats05]

dont do this is 10 dollar sngs. play cash games if u wana try to "open up" your game more. in sngs this isnt good especially 10 dollars where most players arent paying attention.

[dreday]

As played, I think I would like your LAggy play better if you had done this from the button rather than late MP - a) there would be 2 less players who might call your raise and b) you're guaranteed to have position postflop if called.

Obviously you're getting it all-in with a flopped flush, but if you want to raise this preflop you need to have a plan for the rest of the hand (in fact you always need to have a plan for every hand you play).

What was your plan if the flop:

- Missed you entirely and opp bet 120?
- Missed you entirely and opp checked?
- You hit top pair on the flop and opp bet 120?
- You hit bottom pair on the flop and opp bet 120?
- You hit bottom pair on the flop and opp checked?

Im defintaely lookin to hit the flop hard in order to contiue (trips, 2 pair, flush, str8t)

Answer to your questions, respectively:

-fold
-cbet
-fold, cant raise here and i got no kicker, callng wud suck.
-fold
-cbet

Also, agreed, that this would be better from the button.

I dont want to get ahead of myself and thing im Layne Flack or anything, just wanted to experiment, and Ill be sure not to be results oreinted. Nice to have your guys put things in perspective.

[vqc]

ur preflop raise was too big.
this bloated the pot too much and made ur raise on the flop too big a portion of ur stack.

90 preflop
~300-400 on the flop and then contemplate folding to the shove.

[mcatdog]

~300-400 on the flop and then contemplate folding to the shove.

Jopke?

[dreday]

ur preflop raise was too big.
this bloated the pot too much and made ur raise on the flop too big a portion of ur stack.

90 preflop
~300-400 on the flop and then contemplate folding to the shove.

I sometimes get lazy and click the auto 3.5bb button on UB. Damm that button.

[vqc]

~300-400 on the flop and then contemplate folding to the shove.

Jopke?

i didnt really look at the pot size or wat his bets would make the pot so I have no clue and dont really want to bother about adding things up and looking at pot odds so on and so forth, but either way he bloated it when he was trying to get fancy.

my bad.

[mcatdog]

~300-400 on the flop and then contemplate folding to the shove.

Jopke?

i didnt really look at the pot size or wat his bets would make the pot so I have no clue and dont really want to bother about adding things up and looking at pot odds so on and so forth, but either way he bloated it when he was trying to get fancy.

my bad.

I agree with you about the preflop raise size being too big but it's hard to imagine a situation where folding a flush in a raised pot in a SNG would be a good idea.

[vqc]

O SHIT
misread the hand completely
didnt think at all the 4s was a 4s.