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  1. #1

    Default Marginal push OESD

    PokerStars Game #6852018696: Tournament #34921367, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/11/01 - 11:15:52 (ET)
    Table '34921367 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: greg hansen (1030 in chips)
    Seat 2: AllinAmber (820 in chips)
    Seat 4: Forty2u (1375 in chips)
    Seat 5: ZHAWKONE (3730 in chips)
    Seat 6: yesnomaybe (1615 in chips)
    Seat 8: Sphinx1 (3110 in chips)
    Seat 9: schnookems (1820 in chips)
    AllinAmber: posts small blind 50
    Forty2u: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Forty2u [Kh 2c]
    ZHAWKONE: folds
    yesnomaybe: folds
    Sphinx1 has timed out
    Sphinx1: folds
    Sphinx1 is sitting out
    schnookems: raises 100 to 200
    greg hansen: folds
    AllinAmber: calls 150
    Forty2u: calls 100
    *** FLOP *** [4s 5d 3d]
    Sphinx1 has returned
    AllinAmber: checks
    Forty2u: bets 1175 and is all-in
  2. #2
    Well, that's certainly adventurous.

    I don't hate the play, entirely, but I'd certainly like to have more than the ass end of that OESD. Do you suspect that a K is an out too? I have to think you do, as you certainly wouldn't make this push if your read was that he had an overpair.

    it's a little shaky, I think... but the way the hand is played, it's a fairly safe semibluff. Odds of opponent hitting that flop are slim, and if they whiffed it with big cards, you should take it down. if he's actually played a big pair like a donk, you should have outs to your straight.

    Not as wreckless as it appears.

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  3. #3
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    i dont mind the play as is, but i hate the pf call even for 5:1 odds
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
  4. #4
    I think with your stack, the pot, and your hand, this is a pf fold.
  5. #5
    This is an easy fold preflop for me too with your stack size despite getting 5:1 on the call.

    As played, maybe because I'm weak/tight I think I check behind on the flop and hope to hit my draw. Against one opp I would push for sure but I don't like doing this against two. There is a reasonable chance that somebody has an overpair and won't fold to a push IMO.
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    That looks like a good skill lag play to me. I guess a lot of the credibility of your push depends on how you've played up to this point.
  7. #7
    I am willing to call 5:1 anyday if it is not too massive part of my stack and I am closing the action.

    I did believe the K is a valid out, unless villians has AA/KK or a set.

    One of the opponents has checked, so I did not think he is too much of a threat.

    Regarding drawing to the idiot end of the str8, I was not too worried about it. If an A come I have the nut str8 unless he has 26 and already has me beat, if he is calling my push with 7X and a 6 come, so be it.

    I ended up getting one caller with A4, and was lucky enough to hit an A on the turn


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