1 hand: Stars $4.4/180

[jimmy44]

Guys,

What do you do here?
I was not worried about boski13 as he has been min-raising a lot and folding to aggression.
As MrHonestJon did not re-raise I thought that he would have 2 high cards or medium to small pair.

Is a shove wrong here? Would a re-raise be better? A re-raise of 1000 would leave almost pot comitted ...

-----Hand 11-----
Hero's M = 10.69
PokerStars Game #6868001701: Tournament #35004846, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/11/02 - 17:47:06 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '35004846 9' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: CockyDelisle (3010 in chips)
Seat 2: boski13 (6885 in chips)
Seat 3: RADIOHEADZ (7970 in chips)
Seat 4: dukeofcedar (2030 in chips)
Seat 5: bilew222 (308 in chips)
Seat 6: MrHonestJon (7037 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (2405 in chips)
Seat 8: masdema (7205 in chips)
Seat 9: fidgitalot (3915 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 75
masdema: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ad Qh]
fidgitalot: folds
CockyDelisle: folds
boski13: raises 150 to 300
RADIOHEADZ: folds
dukeofcedar: folds
bilew222: raises 8 to 308 and is all-in
MrHonestJon: calls 308
Hero: ????

Thanks!

[chardrian]

You can call or push.

A call is fine because you know that you get to see a flop for a small price. But then you have to check unless you get a huge draw or a top pair hand.

A push is fine, becuase you are (at least hoping) to isolate a player with a range that you definitely beat, and you are getting the right price to do so. Only drawback with the push is that boski might have actually wake up with a hand.

[Phantaroth]

This is tough IMO as Boski has a nice stack and a raise here seems strong... with two big stacks that might like the dead money, i don't push here. Just call and the only flop you play is like... 3 7 Q or obv. AQx orrrrrrrr all-diamonds... something like that.. otherwise call this and then check fold the flop if its ugly!

[zenbitz]

A call is fine because you know that you get to see a flop for a small price. But then you have to check unless you get a huge draw or a top pair hand.

Does this close the action? Doesn't initial PFR get another shot since the mini-all-in raised him 8 chips?

I think position alone makes calling kinda bad. Plus BB probably calls along.

I don't hate a push or a fold here. I think pushing is going to get you alot of coin flips vs. pocket pairs held by the big stacks. Still 45-55 with ~800 in dead money is nothing to sneeze at.

[jimmy44]

Thanks for the answers guys!

For me the problem with calling is that, as zenbitz said, the initial preflop raiser can squeeze everyone else. Furthermore, I'll most likely loose 308 chips, as with 4 guys in the pot I need to really get lucky to hit it hard!

With 800 chips of deadmoney and not a lot of aggression being showed, I pushed due to my small stack!
As I thought the initial raiser folded but MrHonestJon didn't, showed 77 and his pocket pair hold to win.

I think these are the kind of risks you have to take on a MTT or big SNG when short stacked. Or am I completely wrong here?

[JeffreyGB]

Your play was fine. A call would also have been fine.

Since the reraise was less than half the previous bet, the initial raiser does not have the option to re-raise as a squeeze play. He can call the 8 or he can fold. It would have had to have been at least 76 more to him for a reraise to have been possible.

[chardrian]

A call is fine because you know that you get to see a flop for a small price. But then you have to check unless you get a huge draw or a top pair hand.

Does this close the action? Doesn't initial PFR get another shot since the mini-all-in raised him 8 chips?

I think position alone makes calling kinda bad. Plus BB probably calls along.

I don't hate a push or a fold here. I think pushing is going to get you alot of coin flips vs. pocket pairs held by the big stacks. Still 45-55 with ~800 in dead money is nothing to sneeze at.

I thought it closed the action since his raise was only 8 more than the call (i.e. I thought you could only reraise if someone had raised more than the minimum).

[zenbitz]

I wasn't sure about the 8 chip raise that's why I asked. However, no matter what the PFR does, techicjally BB can close the action or raise!

another point in favor of calling that I missed is that people might be inclined to check it down with no side pot. Or rather, they will slightly less inclined to bluff you off.

[chardrian]

You are right - the BB could reraise, it's just the initial raiser who cannot.

[drmcboy]

shove, I don't think it's close.