My best Fnord impression...

[Jager]

This is me trying to outplay my opponent...
I have been looking for these types of scary boards to punish blind stealers.
My plan is to C/R flop then bet turn. This is my first and might be my only attempt.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($115.40)
MP ($94.60)
Button ($291.65)
Hero ($101)
BB ($107.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2, 2.
2 folds, Button raises to $3, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($7) 4, T, T (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5, Hero raises to $15, Button calls $10.

Turn: ($37) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $25, Button calls $25.

River: ($87) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $58 (All-In), Button calls $58.

Final Pot: $203

[mcatdog]

I bet most people will hate this but I like it if this guy is a TAG and you have a history with him, where he's seen you play a hand like 44 the same way. It's necessary to mix up your play in spots like this. Usually check-fold the turn but follow through some of the time.

[Jager]

If I check the turn it looks like a flop bluff, I want to be convincing and fire the 2nd barrel.

[Miffed22001]

i check the turn for the simple reason that i may c/r all in over the top with the goods or ill check the river too and c/r it when opp lookss to make what he thinks is a value bet (that lines reserved for both a hand and air)

[mcatdog]

I think going for the double check-raise is fancy play syndrome here.

[Phantaroth]

4 10 10 6 2 is not a scary board to me.

This is a "specific" board... on this type of board if someone bets I take into consideration that it probley didn't hit him good, or didn't hit him at all. If he leads the flop out strong he MIGHT have a 10 but 9/10 times he doesn't.


So anyway, if I was bluffing here, I'd be the one re-bluffing you with nothing

Against a solid table the only spot I fire two or more bluffs is if I know the player is a weakish calling station... I usually put them on a draw after the first bluff, if the turn doesn't match I fire again..

I think it is better to bluff boards that DO match a lot of hands, atleast against observant players, as if they don't have a big hand they are more likely to give you credit and you take the pot.

For instance, I have 78os - someone else has 99... I raise preflop, he calls... board is Ad 10c 3c - If I raise here he will fold a lot. But if the board comes 4 10 10 he will re-raise a lot.

[nutsinho]

call flop and c/r turn on this board

[Jager]

I thought it was better to represent the T. This person had been stealing for 3/4 orbits, I did have a read on this particular hand. I figured that with a paired board it was less likely to hit them.

[Ash256]

call flop and c/r turn on this board

I really like this.

[DaHorror]

I thought it was better to represent the T. This person had been stealing for 3/4 orbits, I did have a read on this particular hand. I figured that with a paired board it was less likely to hit them.

Then it's a helluva lot less likely that he's going to call your flop substantial check-raise and a turn 2/3 pot value bet with airish overcards unless he's also a complete retard as well as a blind stealer.
I think that either you 2-outted him, or that he decided to stick around with 2 high clubs.

Also - avg player check-calls that flop, lead/cr turn with a T every time on that board. There's no way he's going to buy that you have a T...your play reeks of a hand that needs protection.

The thing I don't understand here is that we seem to be bluffing a player who cannot fold...then you caught a miracle river and it plays itself.

[Jager]

This is true I caught a miracle river... I was sticking to my plan here, I did not want to see a river if I C/r turn then I am probably going to see the river or get pushed if he has a T.




He held KT...

[gabe]

check raising the flop does not represent a ten

[Fnord]

check raising the flop does not represent a ten

Shhhh.....

But it still gets you a lot of folds.

The problem with slamming the turn is that a lot of players have fairly tight second barrel ranges and if he checks the turn behind a river bet has no implied threat.

Also, I think you need to consider bet/folding this flop a lot with air. That does tell a believeable story that you have 44/Tx if he's a thinking player. Following through on the turn is cheaper too.

Which gets back to the point of you making a play without a fucking clue who you're making at. You can start with how the hell did he get a 3 buy-in stack?