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    Default Trimmed $16 for review

    If anybody has time to look over this that would be great. Particularly interested to see whether I was being too aggro when I went from hero to zero from Hand 12 onwards.

    The Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) was developed by JeffreyGB at http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com.

    ---Statistics---
    Data for 51 hands.
    You played 14 hands (27.45%).
    You raised 8 times preflop (15.69%).




    -----Hand 1-----
    Hero's M = 50.00
    PokerStars Game #6888459023: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/11/04 - 07:20:34 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: NASTEE_BET (1500 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (1500 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: alesanre (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: feldo (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: pilawyer1 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1500 in chips)
    NASTEE_BET: posts small blind 10
    Hero: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [2h As]
    xlr8s13: folds
    alesanre: folds
    feldo: folds
    Bloomer: folds
    pilawyer1: calls 20
    BluntRubble has timed out
    BluntRubble: folds
    BluntRubble is sitting out
    guet24: folds
    NASTEE_BET: calls 10
    Hero: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Kd Ah 9s]
    BluntRubble has returned
    NASTEE_BET: bets 20
    Hero: calls 20
    pilawyer1: raises 40 to 60
    NASTEE_BET: calls 40
    Hero: folds
    *** TURN *** [Kd Ah 9s] [Kc]
    NASTEE_BET: bets 20
    pilawyer1: calls 20
    *** RIVER *** [Kd Ah 9s Kc] [Ad]
    NASTEE_BET: checks
    pilawyer1: checks
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    NASTEE_BET: shows [7c Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Aces)
    pilawyer1: shows [9c 9d] (a full house, Nines full of Aces)
    NASTEE_BET collected 240 from pot

    [7c 3h] SB (M=48.67; f+f+f+f+f+f+c+F)
    [5s Kc] BU (M=48.33; f+f+f+c+f+f+F)
    [Ad 8h] CO (M=48.33; f+f+f+f+f+F)
    [9d 4c] CO-1 (M=48.33; f+c+f+c+F)
    [5c 3c] MP2 (M=32.22; f+f+c+F)
    [9h Jd] MP1 (M=32.22; f+f+F)

    -----Hand 2-----
    Hero's M = 32.22
    PokerStars Game #6888496213: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/11/04 - 07:29:09 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: NASTEE_BET (2130 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (1450 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (1280 in chips)
    Seat 5: alesanre (1470 in chips)
    Seat 6: feldo (1615 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (1510 in chips)
    Seat 8: pilawyer1 (1355 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1190 in chips)
    BluntRubble: posts small blind 15
    guet24: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Qh Ad]
    NASTEE_BET: calls 30
    Hero: raises 90 to 120
    xlr8s13: folds
    alesanre: folds
    feldo: folds
    Bloomer: folds
    pilawyer1: folds
    BluntRubble: raises 1070 to 1190 and is all-in
    guet24: folds
    NASTEE_BET: folds
    Hero: folds
    BluntRubble collected 300 from pot
    BluntRubble: doesn't show hand


    -----Hand 3-----
    Hero's M = 29.56
    PokerStars Game #6888499577: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/11/04 - 07:29:55 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 2: NASTEE_BET (2100 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (1330 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (1280 in chips)
    Seat 5: alesanre (1470 in chips)
    Seat 6: feldo (1615 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (1510 in chips)
    Seat 8: pilawyer1 (1355 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1370 in chips)
    guet24: posts small blind 15
    NASTEE_BET: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [7c 7d]
    Hero: calls 30
    xlr8s13: folds
    alesanre: folds
    feldo: folds
    Bloomer: calls 30
    pilawyer1: folds
    BluntRubble: raises 1340 to 1370 and is all-in
    guet24: folds
    NASTEE_BET: folds
    Hero: folds
    Bloomer: folds
    BluntRubble collected 135 from pot
    BluntRubble: shows [Th Tc] (a pair of Tens)

    [Td 8d] BB (M=17.33; r+f+f+f+f+f+f+f+F)
    [7d Ks] SB (M=16.67; f+f+f+f+r+f+f+F)
    [8h 2c] BU (M=16.33; f+f+c+f+c+f+F)

    -----Hand 4-----
    Hero's M = 16.33
    PokerStars Game #6888515777: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/11/04 - 07:33:40 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (1680 in chips)
    Seat 2: NASTEE_BET (2045 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 3: Hero (1225 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (930 in chips)
    Seat 5: alesanre (1420 in chips)
    Seat 6: feldo (1615 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (1480 in chips)
    Seat 8: pilawyer1 (1205 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1900 in chips)
    alesanre: posts small blind 25
    feldo: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Jd Kd]
    Bloomer: folds
    pilawyer1: folds
    BluntRubble: folds
    guet24: folds
    NASTEE_BET: folds
    Hero: raises 100 to 150
    xlr8s13: folds
    alesanre: folds
    feldo: folds
    Hero collected 125 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand


    -----Hand 5-----
    Hero's M = 17.33
    PokerStars Game #6888517872: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/11/04 - 07:34:09 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (1680 in chips)
    Seat 2: NASTEE_BET (2045 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 3: Hero (1300 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (930 in chips)
    Seat 5: alesanre (1395 in chips)
    Seat 6: feldo (1565 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (1480 in chips)
    Seat 8: pilawyer1 (1205 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1900 in chips)
    feldo: posts small blind 25
    Bloomer: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [2d 2c]
    pilawyer1: calls 50
    BluntRubble: folds
    guet24: folds
    NASTEE_BET: folds
    Hero: calls 50
    xlr8s13: folds
    alesanre: folds
    feldo: calls 25
    Bloomer: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Kd 4d Js]
    feldo: checks
    Bloomer: checks
    pilawyer1: checks
    Hero: checks
    *** TURN *** [Kd 4d Js] [2h]
    feldo: checks
    Bloomer: checks
    pilawyer1: checks
    Hero: bets 150
    feldo: folds
    Bloomer: folds
    pilawyer1: calls 150
    *** RIVER *** [Kd 4d Js 2h] [8h]
    pilawyer1: checks
    Hero: bets 250
    pilawyer1: folds
    Hero collected 500 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    [4c Ac] MP2 (M=21.33; f+f+f+F)
    [Js 7h] MP1 (M=10.67; f+f+F)
    [Qs 3d] UTG+1 (M=10.67; f+F)
    [Tc Ad] UTG (M=10.67; F)

    -----Hand 6-----
    Hero's M = 10.67
    PokerStars Game #6888540751: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/11/04 - 07:39:21 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (1480 in chips)
    Seat 2: NASTEE_BET (1945 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (1600 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (930 in chips)
    Seat 5: alesanre (1345 in chips)
    Seat 6: feldo (2520 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (1730 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1950 in chips)
    NASTEE_BET: posts small blind 50
    Hero: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Th 8d]
    xlr8s13: folds
    alesanre: folds
    feldo: folds
    Bloomer: folds
    BluntRubble: folds
    guet24: folds
    NASTEE_BET: calls 50
    Hero: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Ah Kh 7d]
    NASTEE_BET: checks
    Hero: checks
    *** TURN *** [Ah Kh 7d] [Jc]
    NASTEE_BET: checks
    Hero: bets 150
    NASTEE_BET: folds
    Hero collected 200 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    [4h 5s] SB (M=11.33; f+f+f+f+r+f+F)
    [2d Jd] BU (M=7.33; f+f+f+r+f+F)
    [Qc 3c] CO (M=7.33; f+f+f+r+F)
    [6s Kc] MP2 (M=7.33; c+f+f+F)
    [6c 4d] MP1 (M=7.33; f+f+F)
    [9c 7s] UTG+1 (M=7.33; f+F)
    [Kc 8s] UTG (M=7.33; F)

    -----Hand 7-----
    Hero's M = 5.50
    PokerStars Game #6888569883: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/11/04 - 07:45:44 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (1855 in chips)
    Seat 2: NASTEE_BET (1920 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (1650 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (980 in chips)
    Seat 5: alesanre (1120 in chips)
    Seat 6: feldo (2295 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (1730 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1950 in chips) is sitting out
    NASTEE_BET: posts small blind 100
    Hero: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Tc Th]
    xlr8s13: folds
    alesanre: folds
    feldo: folds
    Bloomer: folds
    BluntRubble: folds
    guet24: folds
    NASTEE_BET: raises 200 to 400
    Hero: raises 1250 to 1650 and is all-in
    NASTEE_BET: calls 1250
    *** FLOP *** [9c 8d 3s]
    *** TURN *** [9c 8d 3s] [Qc]
    *** RIVER *** [9c 8d 3s Qc] [5h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    NASTEE_BET: shows [7s Ac] (high card Ace)
    Hero: shows [Tc Th] (a pair of Tens)
    Hero collected 3300 from pot

    [7c 6d] SB (M=11.00; f+f+f+f+r+f+F)
    [Ks 2h] BU (M=10.67; f+f+f+f+f+F)
    [Ks 4d] CO (M=10.67; f+f+f+f+F)
    [5s Qs] MP2 (M=10.67; f+f+p+F)
    [5s Js] UTG+1 (M=10.67; f+F)
    [Kc 6s] UTG (M=10.67; F)
    [Tc 9c] BB (M=10.67; f+f+r+f+f+F)
    [9s 8s] SB (M=10.00; f+f+f+r+F)
    [Ts Ad] BU (M=6.44; f+f+r+F)
    [4s 3c] CO (M=6.39; f+f+F)
    [8s 7h] MP1 (M=6.33; f+F)
    [9c Ks] UTG (M=6.28; F)
    [Qh Th] BB (M=6.22; f+f+f+f+r+F)

    -----Hand 8-----
    Hero's M = 5.72
    PokerStars Game #6888602099: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/11/04 - 07:52:41 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (3080 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (2575 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (1705 in chips)
    Seat 6: feldo (2310 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (2605 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1225 in chips) is sitting out
    All Players post the ante 25
    Hero: posts small blind 100
    xlr8s13: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Jd Ts]
    feldo: folds
    Bloomer: folds
    BluntRubble: folds
    guet24: folds
    Hero: raises 2350 to 2550 and is all-in
    xlr8s13: folds
    Hero collected 550 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    [6s Qs] BU (M=6.44; f+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 9-----
    Hero's M = 6.39
    PokerStars Game #6888607149: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/11/04 - 07:53:44 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (3030 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (2875 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (3060 in chips)
    Seat 6: feldo (805 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (2555 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1175 in chips) is sitting out
    All Players post the ante 25
    feldo: posts small blind 100
    Bloomer: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Kh Js]
    BluntRubble: folds
    guet24: folds
    Hero: raises 300 to 500
    xlr8s13: folds
    feldo: raises 280 to 780 and is all-in
    Bloomer: folds
    Hero: calls 280
    *** FLOP *** [Qh 5d Ks]
    *** TURN *** [Qh 5d Ks] [Kd]
    *** RIVER *** [Qh 5d Ks Kd] [6h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    feldo: shows [5s As] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
    Hero: shows [Kh Js] (three of a kind, Kings)
    feldo is sitting out
    Hero collected 1910 from pot

    [8d Ks] UTG (M=9.36; F)

    -----Hand 10-----
    Hero's M = 9.31
    PokerStars Game #6888611063: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/11/04 - 07:54:35 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (3205 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (3955 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (3010 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (2305 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1025 in chips) is sitting out
    All Players post the ante 25
    guet24: posts small blind 100
    Hero: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Td Th]
    xlr8s13: raises 600 to 800
    Bloomer: folds
    BluntRubble: folds
    guet24: calls 700
    Hero: calls 600
    *** FLOP *** [4c 8s 4h]
    guet24: checks
    Hero: bets 3130 and is all-in
    xlr8s13: folds
    guet24: folds
    Hero collected 2525 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand


    -----Hand 11-----
    Hero's M = 13.31
    PokerStars Game #6888614031: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/11/04 - 07:55:12 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (2380 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (5655 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (2185 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (2280 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (1000 in chips) is sitting out
    All Players post the ante 25
    Hero: posts small blind 100
    xlr8s13: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Td 3c]
    Bloomer: folds
    BluntRubble: folds
    guet24: folds
    Hero: raises 5430 to 5630 and is all-in
    xlr8s13: folds
    Hero collected 525 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    [Qd 5h] BU (M=8.21; f+r+F)

    -----Hand 12-----
    Hero's M = 8.18
    PokerStars Game #6888618033: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/11/04 - 07:56:02 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (3055 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (5930 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (1735 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (1830 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (950 in chips) is sitting out
    All Players post the ante 25
    Bloomer: posts small blind 200
    BluntRubble: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [3s 3h]
    guet24: folds
    Hero: raises 5505 to 5905 and is all-in
    xlr8s13: calls 1710 and is all-in
    Bloomer: folds
    BluntRubble: folds
    *** FLOP *** [4s As 9d]
    *** TURN *** [4s As 9d] [Js]
    *** RIVER *** [4s As 9d Js] [3d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Hero: shows [3s 3h] (three of a kind, Threes)
    xlr8s13: shows [Ad Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
    xlr8s13 collected 4145 from pot

    [5d Qs] UTG (M=5.79; F)

    -----Hand 13-----
    Hero's M = 5.75
    PokerStars Game #6888621594: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/11/04 - 07:56:46 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (3330 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (4170 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (4120 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (1580 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (300 in chips) is sitting out
    All Players post the ante 25
    guet24: posts small blind 200
    Hero: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [4s Kd]
    xlr8s13: folds
    Bloomer: folds
    BluntRubble: folds
    guet24: calls 200
    Hero: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Ah Td 8d]
    guet24: checks
    Hero: bets 600
    guet24: calls 600
    *** TURN *** [Ah Td 8d] [3s]
    guet24: checks
    Hero: checks
    *** RIVER *** [Ah Td 8d 3s] [Qc]
    guet24: bets 800
    Hero: folds
    guet24 collected 2125 from pot


    -----Hand 14-----
    Hero's M = 4.34
    PokerStars Game #6888624979: Tournament #35126116, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/11/04 - 07:57:28 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '35126116 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: guet24 (4430 in chips)
    Seat 3: Hero (3145 in chips)
    Seat 4: xlr8s13 (4095 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bloomer (1555 in chips)
    Seat 9: BluntRubble (275 in chips) is sitting out
    All Players post the ante 25
    Hero: posts small blind 200
    xlr8s13: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ts 9h]
    Bloomer: folds
    BluntRubble: folds
    guet24: folds
    Hero: raises 2720 to 3120 and is all-in
    xlr8s13: calls 2720
    *** FLOP *** [2c Qs Ah]
    *** TURN *** [2c Qs Ah] [Js]
    *** RIVER *** [2c Qs Ah Js] [2d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Hero: shows [Ts 9h] (a pair of Deuces)
    xlr8s13: shows [Qd Ac] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
    xlr8s13 collected 6365 from pot

    The Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) was developed by JeffreyGB at http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com.
  2. #2
    hand 10 i dont like, either fold or push. i think a push is good if your ahead of raisers range, i expect the caller to fold.

    hand 11 i just fold pf


    everything else is fine, 2 hands you had KJ just shows your opening up your game as it gets on.
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    hand 10 i dont like, either fold or push. i think a push is good if your ahead of raisers range, i expect the caller to fold.
    I agree, I think I should have just pushed this preflop. TBH I was spooked by the caller, which is why I just flat called with the intention of getting it AI on any undercard (or obv T) flop. I guess the caller just adds some nice overlay making a preflop push over even more attractive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    hand 11 i just fold pf
    Normally I would but this guy had been playing super duper tight, I knew his calling range was very tight indeed.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    hand 11 i just fold pf
    Normally I would but this guy had been playing super duper tight, I knew his calling range was very tight indeed.
    if he is really that tight why not just go 3xBB raise.
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    hand 11 i just fold pf
    Normally I would but this guy had been playing super duper tight, I knew his calling range was very tight indeed.
    if he is really that tight why not just go 3xBB raise.
    Go mad with the big stack
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    hand 11 i just fold pf
    Normally I would but this guy had been playing super duper tight, I knew his calling range was very tight indeed.
    if he is really that tight why not just go 3xBB raise.
    Go mad with the big stack
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
  7. #7
    well played taipan

    only hand i play differently is 10. i agree with goat on the push/fold pf there, and i push that all day unless opp. is overly tight.
  8. #8
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    I'd shove hands 10-14 preflop.
  9. #9
    [Ad 8h] CO (M=48.33; f+f+f+f+f+F) - I would raise it
    #11: why risk your entire stack here ? I would fold T3, but if you want to steal raise 3BB
    #12: see #11
    #14: Same comment, raise 3BB, there are 2 very short stacks, if you raise 3BB and get reraised you can fold and still have enough chips to play


  10. #10
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    I have just 2 comments to the ones added from everyone else.


    Hand 1: Why do you call the min bet on the flop? With 2 other guys, there will be a big chance that you'll be facing a bigger Ace. Should you be spending chips on this?

    Hand 3: I tend to fold this early position (I limp with pair 88+ if the blinds are not too big from any position). Most of the time we'll face a raise or we'll miss the flop or we'll not make any decent money to compensate. Is this a leak from me?
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Hand 1: Why do you call the min bet on the flop? With 2 other guys, there will be a big chance that you'll be facing a bigger Ace. Should you be spending chips on this?
    I take a minbet as a sign that a player is terrible. Terrible players will generally not minbet if they have an ace, so I took this to mean he had Kx or even 9x. If he was going to minbet the turn and river as well I would have called and expected to have had the best hand most of the time. Once the player raises behind me it is time to GTFO obv.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Hand 3: I tend to fold this early position (I limp with pair 88+ if the blinds are not too big from any position). Most of the time we'll face a raise or we'll miss the flop or we'll not make any decent money to compensate. Is this a leak from me?
    Early on, I'll limp pocket pairs 22-TT from any position for set value AND call a raise with them provided that it's not more than 7% of my stack to see a flop. I'm still trying to figure out the maths behind this but Lee Jones' book said that this gives you the right implied odds to play for a set. On an aggressive table I'll fold the smaller pocket pairs (22-55) from EP but limp 66-TT.
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    [Ad 8h] CO (M=48.33; f+f+f+f+f+F) - I would raise it
    I guess I could have, but a) blinds are only 10/20 at this point and b) if somebody flat calls me and an A comes on the flop, there are potentially bad reverse implied odds as I won't know whether my kicker is good.

    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    #11: why risk your entire stack here ? I would fold T3, but if you want to steal raise 3BB
    Agreed, this was a bit too reckless

    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    #12: see #11
    This one I think is a good push, look at the stack sizes - neither of these guys is going to call me without a monster. Since both their stacks are around 1800, there's not much difference between me pushing and raising to 1200, if I raise to 1200 and they push I'm not folding. If the guy with the 3000 stack had been in front I would have just raised 3x BB.

    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    #14: Same comment, raise 3BB, there are 2 very short stacks, if you raise 3BB and get reraised you can fold and still have enough chips to play
    3x BB is like 40% of my stack, can I really just raise and fold if pushed over? If it had been 4-handed with the super short stack sitting out I would have folded this for sure. Plus I didn't think that the 1555 stack was quite short enough to justify folding here. If he had been 1000 or less I probably would have folded.
  13. #13
    Taipan wrote:
    TLR wrote:
    #12: see #11

    This one I think is a good push, look at the stack sizes - neither of these guys is going to call me without a monster. Since both their stacks are around 1800, there's not much difference between me pushing and raising to 1200, if I raise to 1200 and they push I'm not folding. If the guy with the 3000 stack had been in front I would have just raised 3x BB.
    You are correct, my bad

    TLR wrote:
    #14: Same comment, raise 3BB, there are 2 very short stacks, if you raise 3BB and get reraised you can fold and still have enough chips to play

    3x BB is like 40% of my stack, can I really just raise and fold if pushed over? If it had been 4-handed with the super short stack sitting out I would have folded this for sure. Plus I didn't think that the 1555 stack was quite short enough to justify folding here. If he had been 1000 or less I probably would have folded.
    If you fold you still have 2000 stack, not great, but 3rd biggest stack and deep enough to have some fold equity even from the big stacks
  14. #14
    Taipan wrote:
    TLR wrote:
    [Ad 8h] CO (M=48.33; f+f+f+f+f+F) - I would raise it

    I guess I could have, but a) blinds are only 10/20 at this point and b) if somebody flat calls me and an A comes on the flop, there are potentially bad reverse implied odds as I won't know whether my kicker is good.
    Most likely scenario is you pick up either 30 chips or 70 if BB calls and folds to c-bet. You may lose 60 if he comes over the top or 100 if he comes over your c-bet.

    However there are 2 small benefits to raising here
    1. Usually at the $16 1-2 opponents are actually paying attention, it is to your benenfit to appear less tight then you actually are
    2. It gives you some indication to how fierceful the blinds are when you try to steal, some people just cant stand having their blinds stolen, and call with pretty much anything
  15. #15
    Taipan
    when its folded to you in the CO or button in the early blind levels (10/20, 15/30, sometimes even 25/50) you should start opening up your game ALOT and pick on those blinds, especially if your good postflop.

    A8 is definitely in that raising range.
  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Taipan
    when its folded to you in the CO or button in the early blind levels (10/20, 15/30, sometimes even 25/50) you should start opening up your game ALOT and pick on those blinds, especially if your good postflop.

    A8 is definitely in that raising range.
    But I suck postflop!
  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Taipan
    when its folded to you in the CO or button in the early blind levels (10/20, 15/30, sometimes even 25/50) you should start opening up your game ALOT and pick on those blinds, especially if your good postflop.

    A8 is definitely in that raising range.
    But I suck postflop!
    O...
    nevermind then
    =P
    haha

    ur def better postflop then most fo the players at the 16s.
  18. #18
    I struggle there as well. Most players seem to call a 3x raise by somone in late position early in a game with almost anything because it is a relatively small portion of their stack and also because they are sucking stations. This leaves me in a minefield postflop becuase it is hard to say what hand they have. I'm much happier stealing when the blinds are bigger.

    Recently, I have found it to be a lot easier being tight as a clam for the first two rounds giving me a chance to watch the opposition and work out the table. I hate being stuck against a player not knowing what to do because I have no idea of who they are.

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